Sneak Peek VooDoo's Blower

[VooDoo]

http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/Twinscrew/fitted.jpg
http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/Twinscrew/fitted2.jpg
http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/Twinscrew/fitted3.jpg

Hows 525ftlb's of torque @ 2100rpm and 640ftlb's at 5500rpm sound. Thats with a STOCK exhaust system, cats and stock cast headers. (A tuned LS2 with full exhuast gets 480-510ftlb's at 6000rpm) We will be adding a free flowing exhaust and allowing the engine to breath but needed a baseline to work from for customers with stock vehicles.

Does it scream? You wanna believe it. I have some vid's but havent had time to get em off the camera yet. Ill do it soon as i can.

[NickS]

Looks great Stew ... the top access to the intercooler must save a fair bit of stuffing around, great work.

:bravo:

[VooDoo]

No cutting at all anywhere, i can fit them in 2 hrs now.

[Scotty]

Stu, please excuse my ignorance....

but is the 'cloth' looking section over the radiator, just pipe with heat wrap?

Also, whats the benefits of the TB (I presume) being to the rear of the engine? more room.. better flow?

Thanks

[NickS]

Also, whats the benefits of the TB (I presume) being to the rear of the engine? more room.. better flow?

Thanks

Looks like the TB is at the front still ... you can see the rocker for the accelerator cable on the right (as you look at it).

However, I am now really confused about why the pipes from the intercooler go to the back ... :lol:

[Scotty]

Looks like the TB is at the front still ... you can see the rocker for the accelerator cable on the right (as you look at it).

However, I am now really confused about why the pipes from the intercooler go to the back ... :lol:


Now I look again... I am even more confused... I just presumed that as the pipes went to the back thats where the TB is...

[VooDoo]

The "gloves" are fiberglass and moulded to fit over the radiator and onto the intercooler. They took months to design and we tried silicon, metal, stainless etc before the fiberglass temp ones worked. The production version will be carbon fibre.

The TB is at the front (not connected to anything atm)

[Delft Maloo]

great work voodoo. what power will that intercooler support and what size it.

[DaveHAT]

Not taking the piss Stu but can you please explain for my simple stupid brain how this blower will work?

I can't follow from the pics how will the air get from the intercooler to the throttle body? I honestly can't work it out for the life of me ... :confused:

Can you explain the piping and flow of air filter --> blower --> cooler --> TB?

[235rwkw]

my guess

air into the TB, compress in blower, out down to intercooler one pipe on top, back from intercooler other pipe on top, and into the manifold and motor at the rear, not via the tb thats just an intake for the blower and where a filter will be added and hopefully some sort of CAI setup

[DaveHAT]

my guess

air into the TB, compress in blower, out down to intercooler one pipe on top, back from intercooler other pipe on top, and into the manifold and motor at the rear, not via the tb thats just an intake for the blower and where a filter will be added and hopefully some sort of CAI setup

Thanks Steve, that makes perfect sense.

[235rwkw]

whats the boost loss from what it is on exit from the blower, against the manifold after returned?

in other words how much does the piping and intercooler take away?

[Scotty]

assuming your theory is correct... the an otr orsimilar can be used.

Stu have I got a setup for you....:up2sum:

[BOMI]

Looks good Stu, great to see someone doing something different for once :yep:


Troy :)

[choppo]

my guess

air into the TB, compress in blower, out down to intercooler one pipe on top, back from intercooler other pipe on top, and into the manifold and motor at the rear, not via the tb thats just an intake for the blower and where a filter will be added and hopefully some sort of CAI setup

Nah, nah, nah..... your all wrong - blower intake as normal via TB.... them big pipes are new cutom OTR exhaust pipes! :lmao:

[highlander_69r]

great work voodoo.....looks at tax cheque and wonders.... :)

[VooDoo]

OK, here is the VooDoo Inductions "how it works" version 1.02

Blower is sitting on a twin chamber manifold.

http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/Twinscrew/10_G.jpg

We use the stock airbox for now and a custom MAF pipe (sorry UT, No MAF here). The TB is a 90mm TBA unit and air enters the blower and is compressed to 8-10psi. Hot air from the blower then enters the middle chamber, exits out of one of the rear pipes and heads forward to the "buds" As there is only 52mm between the radiator and the bonnet and the pipes are 3" (76mm) they have to be squashed somewhat, bent at 90 degree's, opened back up to a round 3" to connect to the intercooler all the while flowing the same internal area to avoid a restriction. THEN they also have to withstand -20ftlb's of vacume and not suck in and 30psi of pressure (headroom for spikes, liftoff, backfires etc). So then after the air hits the "buds" it goes through the intercooler, back from the other "bud" to the rear of the engine and back into the exteriour chamber and to the engine's intake ports. Then there is a bang and out the zorst it goes.

Here is the ute its fitted on.

http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/VY-Ute/DSCN2637.sized.jpg

[choppo]

OK, here is the VooDoo Inductions "how it works" version 1.02

Blower is sitting on a twin chamber manifold.

http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/Twinscrew/10_G.jpg

We use the stock airbox for now and a custom MAF pipe (sorry UT, No MAF here). The TB is a 90mm TBA unit and air enters the blower and is compressed to 8-10psi. Hot air from the blower then enters the middle chamber, exits out of one of the rear pipes and heads forward to the "buds" As there is only 52mm between the radiator and the bonnet and the pipes are 3" (76mm) they have to be squashed somewhat, bent at 90 degree's, opened back up to a round 3" to connect to the intercooler all the while flowing the same internal area to avoid a restriction. THEN they also have to withstand -20ftlb's of vacume and not suck in and 30psi of pressure (headroom for spikes, liftoff, backfires etc). So then after the air hits the "buds" it goes through the intercooler, back from the other "bud" to the rear of the engine and back into the exteriour chamber and to the engine's intake ports. Then there is a bang and out the zorst it goes.

Here is the ute its fitted on.

http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/VY-Ute/DSCN2637.sized.jpg
Wow, thats pretty innovative! Has this system been done before or is it a 100
% new design. If its brand new (even if it isn't), good work son!:yep:

[VooDoo]

Its all new and now patent pending which has taken some time and delaying the release.

[hsvredsled]

Please pardon my ignorance as well, but is there any engine overheating issues with the intercooler blocking a great percentage of the radiator?

[drewbytes]

Looking good Stu, a PD blower than can use an OTR and a proper intercooler :yep: If this overcomes the negatives of a regular PD blower then you're on a winner.

Do you have test data for intake temps v ambient?

Because the blower charge goes from blower to the cooler then back to the blower, is there any "lag" as compred to a regular PD blower where the air goes straight from the blower to the engine? On 2nd thoughts there probably isn't as it should be pumping sufficient air all the time being PD that maybe it's not an issue?

[BOMI]

Please pardon my ignorance as well, but is there any engine overheating issues with the intercooler blocking a great percentage of the radiator?

The intercooler is not blocking the radiator, the air still transfers through the outside of the IC and then through the outside of the radiator. I cant imagine that this would cause any over heating issues as there are 1000's of FI setups out there doing the same thing AFA the intercooler placement is concerned. :)


Stu, very different design you have there mate, I dont fully get it or how it works but Im sure later you will be ble to give us more diagrams and pictures.


Troy :cheers:

[VooDoo]

Please pardon my ignorance as well, but is there any engine overheating issues with the intercooler blocking a great percentage of the radiator?

no issues to date but we do want to put more K's on it before official release.

Looking good Stu, a PD blower than can use an OTR and a proper intercooler :yep: If this overcomes the negatives of a regular PD blower then you're on a winner.

Do you have test data for intake temps v ambient?

Because the blower charge goes from blower to the cooler then back to the blower, is there any "lag" as compred to a regular PD blower where the air goes straight from the blower to the engine? On 2nd thoughts there probably isn't as it should be pumping sufficient air all the time being PD that maybe it's not an issue?

We have seen 10c above ambiant at 8psi on the dyno which we were pretty happy with. On the road testing is still to be completed fully (we have 4 temp sensors and 2 pressure sensors installed)

There is no lag at all. We can hit 6psi @ 2100rpm and hold 10psi to 5500rpm atm (restricted exhaust reduces top end atm).

[Mongy]

Good looking Ute Stewie :bravo:

[VooDoo]

ta mate. Ive tried to call you a couple of times. You still in hiding?

[RedVYIISS]

Stu, so the TB is mounted on the inlet to the blower?? That being the case, wouldn't 'reverse lag' be an issue? (ie back off, TB closes but all the system inc intercooler is still at 10 PSI for a time):confused:

[highlander_69r]

the kit is looking sweet voodoo. if i wasnt looking at a set of heads i might be swayed to a bit of FI

[VooDoo]

Stu, so the TB is mounted on the inlet to the blower?? That being the case, wouldn't 'reverse lag' be an issue? (ie back off, TB closes but all the system inc intercooler is still at 10 PSI for a time):confused:

Thats what a bypass valve is for. It passes the boost back to the TB side of the blower. Exactly the same concept as a turbo blowoff valve/wastegate whuch operates from vacume

the kit is looking sweet voodoo. if i wasnt looking at a set of heads i might be swayed to a bit of FI

Get both and dont be soft :stick: hehe

[highlander_69r]

lol voodoo the wife would kill me plus i am not sure my cam is FI friendly and a 3rd cam change is out of the question atm

[BlooHAT]

lol voodoo the wife would kill me plus i am not sure my cam is FI friendly and a 3rd cam change is out of the question atm

I think your mind may be changed once VooDoo puts up a sound file, and some driving footage :up2sum:

Dan

[Kyle]

How do you activate your bypass/blowoff valve if there is no pressure difference between the throttle body and the inlet manifold Voodoo?

[VooDoo]

There is always a pressure differance. At idle there is a vacume, obviously positive pressure at boost etc. As soon as the throttle is closed the engine uses what air is in the manifold and pipes and a vacume is created.

Its taken over 6mths of hard work and development to get this far (not to mantion many 10's of $1000) but the car is now finished and i just have to polish it up, take the final photo's and officially release it.

For Brisbane folk, book your test drives now!!

For Sydney folk, ill be down there in approx 3 weeks. We need a cruise and BBQ somewhere!!

[Kyle]

If you need some photos done for advertising and whatnot hit me with a call :)

[Febs]

For Sydney folk, ill be down there in approx 3 weeks. We need a cruise and BBQ somewhere!!

Registering interest...now! :)
See you in a few weeks mate.

Cheers,
- Febs.

[VooDoo]

If you need some photos done for advertising and whatnot hit me with a call :)

Ta mate. Pity your not in Brisbane though

Registering interest...now! :)
See you in a few weeks mate.

Cheers,
- Febs.

No probs. Anyone got a spare room down there? In NOT staying with BenZor again.

[Delft Maloo]

a few weeks mate, that would nearly put you here for our drag day at wsid on the 12th of august.

[VooDoo]

i dont think ill make that in time but im trying.

[Kyle]

I can travel to you :)

I'll also be in brizzy 24-27th august for jamboree

[Mongy]

Is that the one booked in at the photo shoot on the weekend Stewie or are you bringing the GTO?

[VooDoo]

Ill more than likely bring both (but thanks for the memory jog, i'd forgotten)

[Quadcams]

Well done Voodoo, go the Kenne Bell blower and the sound of them :drool:

[VooDoo]

hmm, i can see quadcams reply in his history and email notifications but i cant see it here (i dont have you on ignore either mate hehe)

Anyone else have the same prob? Even the post numbers are #40 and #42

[35R]

Well done Voodoo, go the Kenne Bell blower and the sound of them :drool:

You mean you can't see the above post Voodoo?

[VooDoo]

hey, its back now!!

I tried for 10 mins to see his post. I could see 2 of mine together (on page 2) and there was no page 3. deleted cache, tried a forced reload of the page etc and nothing.

Oh and its NOT a kenne bell blower. it just uses the same core. Its like calling Harrop a PWR or magnuson, they are different beasts and dont share anything other than the core.

[35R]

hey, its back now!!

I tried for 10 mins to see his post. I could see 2 of mine together (on page 2) and there was no page 3. deleted cache, tried a forced reload of the page etc and nothing.



Must be the vBulletin fag-nasties Stew, upset and in a tiz because Zach didnt win tonight.

[VooDoo]

boobies always win :D

[Quadcams]

hey, its back now!!

I tried for 10 mins to see his post. I could see 2 of mine together (on page 2) and there was no page 3. deleted cache, tried a forced reload of the page etc and nothing.

Oh and its NOT a kenne bell blower. it just uses the same core. Its like calling Harrop a PWR or magnuson, they are different beasts and dont share anything other than the core.

Oh sorry my bad Voodoo, does yours have the whine like the KB?

[VooDoo]

http://voodoo.theddrzone.com/carstuff/voodoo2.1.wmv

Sneek peek (note its still in development and not pretty yet. intercooler isnt fitted right, pipework is on but rough etc. Also im no video editing god)

dont post that elsewhere please guys

[lautray]

Problem with the audio Voodoo?

[NickS]

I got audio ... although a bit distorted I think.

Very cool Stew, I love the excited / evil laugh in the middle ... :lmao:

[choppo]

http://voodoo.theddrzone.com/carstuff/voodoo2.1.wmv

Sneek peek (note its still in development and not pretty yet. intercooler isnt fitted right, pipework is on but rough etc. Also im no video editing god)

dont post that elsewhere please guys

Have not met you Stu, but .....mate top work!
Also the 'dont post that elsewhere please guys'.... those reading these development posts should appreciate it....:yep:

[VooDoo]

I got audio ... although a bit distorted I think.

Very cool Stew, I love the excited / evil laugh in the middle ... :lmao:

Thats my business partner's voice. The last time he saw the ute it was clean, stock and slow. Ive now blown it, changed the wheels and suspension added some brakes and doubled the power. He used to drive it every day until i confiscated it for a better cause.

Choppo, im sure ill have a lot more grey hairs be the time im finished but DAMN if i dont have a bigger smile as well. Its already producing more torque than my turbo or stroker did.

(oh, and my stroker goes in the GTO next week then we get a 2.8L version of this blower and on it goes as well)

[highlander_69r]

sounds like a dentist drill voodoo.....nah just kidden:)

looking forward to seeing the final product

[Justice]

Stu
I would be a little worried the intercooler might look a bit too obvious to the cops?:) That intake snorkel! You need something more original. I saw something like that at the LS1 nats and I reckon you have just copied it. Might block the view whilst driving though!:)

Just kidding. Look s good so far. I should have popped up and had a look. Are you taking it out to Willowbank next weekend?

[VooDoo]

You still up here Darren? That snorkle is a trade secret so no stealing it!!

We have done the exhaust now and just putting some K's on the car testing it all works and trying to break it. The front OTR pipes have been ordered in cast now as the others were unreliable when pushed.

I wont be at willowbank, ive been banned by v8looser so im supporting Greg and PlanB at the drifting.