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WOMBIE

28-04-2008, 03:51 PM

Guys i've hit a brick wall in what to do with regard to tyres when i purchase my XHP jet blacks next month.The wheels package will come with Nankang NS2s.

I've been told that these tyres are great bang for buck and real good when new however,turn to shit when half worn.Now i've been discussing on the 'other forum' about what high end road tyre to get so i can go to the track,race and go home with no fuss until i buy some drag tyres.Now i'm leaning toward Bridgestone Adrenalin RE001s,only problem is that they only go up to 18"...as far as i can tell from my research.

I started out wanting 19" rims but can't find anything near the load rating that i would be comfortable with.In 18s it's all good there and i don't mind going 18s but i wouldn't mind some suggestions in 19" tyres as i originally had my heart set on them to start with.

I think for track/drags 18" rims are the go but......i really don't know wtf to do :confused:

I hope some of you can understand my dilemma and have more of a clue than myself cause i'm getting no where fast :headbang:

NickS

28-04-2008, 05:38 PM

I think you might be stuffed mate ... I don't think there is anything in 19" that will have great grip when drag racing.

Have you considered getting some good 19" road tyres and then having 2 18" rims (anything cheap, pick them up 2nd hand) with some RE55s or similar for the strip ? That way all you have to do is swap the rears for the track, yet the 19's will look great daily.

Just a thought ...

On another note, I'd highly recommend Falken FK-452 in the 19's ... I ran them on the VYIISS I had, the Coupe 4 (including several 1.6 60' / one 1.5 60' / heaps of 11 second runs and a 10.9) and I also have them on the SSV (in 20's) ... I'll probably get them on the GTS too when it's tyres wear out. They are extremelly well priced and we have never had a "moment" on them.

Good luck champ.

:driving:

WOMBIE

28-04-2008, 06:42 PM

You maybe right there Nick :( but the search continues for the moment as i'm a glutton for punishment.

I certainly have thought about a 'decent' 19" tyre and to the point that i've delayed my decision for a couple of months now.Very good suggestion though with regard to the smaller rims and RE55s for the drags and trust me...i am thinking about it.

The Falkens do look good and are reasonably priced as you say at around 270-280 ish per corner?

Spoilt for choice seems to be the problem here :lol: I've got to laugh or i'll go crazy.

Cheers mate.

lautray

28-04-2008, 09:03 PM

WOMBIE

29-04-2008, 04:25 PM

I've got F1s now in 17's Erik and pulled a 12.6 at the last private day so they go ok :D

I think i'll go the way of the Falkens for the 19s and just buy some cheap rims and get me some proper drag tyres(of which i will be asking for suggestions due to my lack of knowledge on that subject) :doh:

Getting to the track is a hard task given that my lovely wife works mostly arvo/nite shifts as i've got the 3 kids to look after hence why i jumped at the last organised day.....absolutely loved it!

Thanks fellas.....i think i'm almost there with a decision.

:cheers:

WOMBIE

30-04-2008, 04:43 PM

I've done about as much research on tyres to last me a lifetime and have made a decision.I'm going with the Falkens in 235/35 19 on 8.5" rims as i think i will have less clearance issues and won't have to massage anything.I just have lowered springs and not coilovers so i think this is the best option for me.

I plan to get the wheels next week but this Friday might be a goer if i can squeeze some time into my schedule.When i do get them i will clean my humble sv8 and present some pics in the My Ride/Your Ride section.

Now the search for drag radials begins :doh:

GMMAD

30-04-2008, 06:17 PM

WOMBIE

30-04-2008, 07:11 PM

wise move Darren
cant what to see how she looks
That decision was made easier when your given sound advise ;)

lautray

30-04-2008, 08:24 PM

Darren, sounds like the 235's are the safer bet for stock front strut clearance :). When I had 245/35/19 FK-452, I also had my coilovers, but was able to still run max camber adjustment i.e. just shy of 3* neg, without fouling the strut.

WOMBIE

01-05-2008, 05:34 AM

Your right about the safer option...i just didn't want any issues.I know if i pushed the boundaries with 245's and had a problem down the track,it
would have taken away from the enjoyment of having getting them in the first place.

I've waited 4 years to get rims of any sort and it's taken awhile to make a decision on tyres but i'm more than happy to go this way :)

Duffman

01-05-2008, 08:11 AM

You still getting the XHP Jet Black's Darren?

WOMBIE

01-05-2008, 09:14 AM

Yeah Tom still getting the XHP's.

For those not familiar with them.......
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w262/QIK346/XHPBG_jet20black.jpg
Can't wait :woot:

NickS

01-05-2008, 11:00 AM

Darren,

I had 245/35/19 Falken FK-452s on VX GTS rims on my VYIISS ... considerably lowered too;

http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/NickS/DSC06327.jpg

Never had a single issue with clearance mate, the guards weren't rolled and I wasn't running coilovers either. I don't see that there should be any issue with the 245's.

Just a thought ...

seldo

01-05-2008, 11:19 AM

Sounds like a good decision to me.
It always amazes me that many young blokes spend a fortune on their pride and joy with heaps of go-faster look-better stuff - they lower them and fit fancy suspensions, fat wheels............and then go and put the cheapest crap tyres that they can buy....:shock:
I believe that it doesn't matter how well your car handles, how good the brakes are, how good the driver is....if it's got crap tyres they still hit the scenery very easily, and usually when you are least expecting it, like in the wet or in an emergency....
So - good call. I've found the Falkens to be pretty good too. :)

WOMBIE

01-05-2008, 12:14 PM

Nick....just call me ultra conservative or scared even :lol:

But seriously it's the offset on these rims that may have been an issue and after all,i got some inside info from Steve (GMMAD) who runs XHP's on his ride.Even the the place i'm getting them from recommended the 235's which was cool i thought.They could of grabbed the extra coin if they wanted to but gave me great advice instead :)

And your right there seldo about running crap tyres.It's like when i got a cam install done and ran the oem brakes for a while :eek: I won't be doing things backward again.

:cheers: fellas

NickS

01-05-2008, 01:14 PM

Fair enough mate ... just thought I'd raise it in case you just assumed they wouldn't fit. Sounds like you have done your research.

:thumbs:

firebug

01-05-2008, 01:49 PM

Yeah Tom still getting the XHP's.

For those not familiar with them.......
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w262/QIK346/XHPBG_jet20black.jpg
Can't wait :woot:

Good choice IMO. Chunky yet still slim. I bet the liquid dude from Terminator 2 has these wheels... :nutbag:

WOMBIE

01-05-2008, 03:36 PM

Sounds like you have done your research.

:thumbs:Yeah Nick...done plenty of that.I have pictured these wheels on my red beast for a while now mate.Can't wait to see them when they're finally on.

7 more sleeps to go :dance:

Good choice IMO. Chunky yet still slim.
Thanks mate :)

I first noticed these rims but in full chrome on Steve's white vx ss and while i thought they suited his ride beautifully,i kept thinking it was too much for a red car.But when i saw these puppies i just thought yep.....that's what i want!

Pulse Red

01-05-2008, 03:41 PM

I went through this same decision process not long ago. I had the 19s I wanted picked out and priced but I found the serious performance tyres available too limited to proceed with this size wheel. I have had a bad experience on crappy tyres and wont go down that path again. At least there does seem to be some decent options in 19s in this thread but I didn't want to run separate tyres for the drags so I stuck with my factory 18s and some sticky Toyo RA1 245 18s. Still I often see 19s with polished lips on Monaro's and think man they look good! So in the end I think its a personal choice.

Sounds like you made the right choice for your situation and I hope you enjoy the new rims :)

WOMBIE

08-05-2008, 07:12 AM

Well blokes i'm getting my new wheels this morning...i'll throw up some pics later on today :D

Thanks for everyones imput :thumbs:

WOMBIE

08-05-2008, 01:15 PM

What a difference a set of wheels make :shock:
I will get some better pics done when i've got a bit of time to clean the old girl but here's one just to give you guys an idea.

Before....
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w262/QIK346/CAR056.jpg

After....
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w262/QIK346/drag192.jpg

To say i'm happy is an understatement :D

DaveHAT

08-05-2008, 01:58 PM

Damn :shock: Those spokes look really thin Darren.

They look good but I preferred the SV8 rims personally ... which means SFA because it's your car. :lol:

It reckon it looked "tougher: with the SV8 rims but if you're wrapped that's what matters. :)

NickS

08-05-2008, 02:04 PM

They look good but I preferred the SV8 rims personally ...

Not me ... the new ones look HEAPS better IMO.

:bravo:

The only thing it needs (IMO again ... aren't forums great for "opinions" :D) is some nice shiny tyre black.

Looks great mate, shows off the brakes nicely too, well done.

:cheers:

Pulse Red

08-05-2008, 03:23 PM

They have come up really nicely! I was a bit sceptical seeing the rim pictures on the previous page but they look tough on your car. Nice work! :driving:

WOMBIE

08-05-2008, 04:14 PM

Not me ... the new ones look HEAPS better IMO.

:bravo:

The only thing it needs (IMO again ... aren't forums great for "opinions" :D) is some nice shiny tyre black.

Looks great mate, shows off the brakes nicely too, well done.

:cheers:
Thanks mate and as for the tyre black...i'm on it ;)

They have come up really nicely! I was a bit sceptical seeing the rim pictures on the previous page but they look tough on your car. Nice work! :driving:
Thanks man...i had a heap of customers comment on them infact the shop in question took a couple of photos to put up on their website

Damn :shock: Those spokes look really thin Darren.

They look good but I preferred the SV8 rims personally ... which means SFA because it's your car. :lol:

It reckon it looked "tougher: with the SV8 rims but if you're wrapped that's what matters. :)
Dave doesn't like my rims :cry:

Now mate i know where your coming from and if we all liked the same shit then the world would be pretty boring so it's all good.

However after a good clean and some much better pics i recon i'll win ya over.

Cheers blokes

By the way if anyone is interested or knows of anyone who may be,i have these posted for sale over at ls1.

Duffman

08-05-2008, 05:08 PM

They look great Darren. Should come up a treat once it's cleaned and given a bit of the ol' tyre shine :)

On the topic of you original dilemma, why sell the SV8 rims? They would be perfect for slapping some potenza RE55's on and using as dedicated track wheels. Being 17's, the RE55's would be a fare bit cheaper too.

WOMBIE

08-05-2008, 05:27 PM

Thanks for the kind words Tom :)

Ummmm yeah track wheels....sounds great but where do i find the time.Bloody kids,my work,my wife's work and studying :doh: take up most of it these days and i was lucky to make the last private drag day.If i do go to the strip it's gunna be a spur of the moment thing hence wanting a sticky tyre in 19s.Oh well if i gotta do things arse up i will!

I'll see what happens in the next week or so and have a re-think about it then.

:cheers: mate

GMMAD

08-05-2008, 07:07 PM

looks good Darrin:yep:
that pic doesnt do them justice though

DaveHAT

08-05-2008, 07:36 PM

Dave doesn't like my rims :cry:

Now mate i know where your coming from and if we all liked the same shit then the world would be pretty boring so it's all good.

However after a good clean and some much better pics i recon i'll win ya over.

Cheers blokes

:lol: I never said that Daz. :)

As I approach 40 :shock: the whole sleeper thing is more and more appealing ... hence the new Mr Wagon title. :D

They new rims look great much like Steve's on his VX. I think I'm just becoming a conservative old fart. :lol:

As Nick said, the new rims showing off the brakes is a great feature & like most things will undoubtedly look far better in real life.

:cheers:

GMMAD

08-05-2008, 08:40 PM

They new rims look great much like Steve's on his VX.

:cheers:
yep they are the same but have the back blacked out
Darrins are black jets mine are jets

lautray

08-05-2008, 09:17 PM

Great score mate. Looks great. Love the narrow spoke.

Buy some good lock nuts, man :idea: ;).

WOMBIE

09-05-2008, 05:06 AM

looks good Darrin:yep:
that pic doesnt do them justice though
I know what you mean Steve so i'll be getting better pics today hopefully :)

:lol: I never said that Daz. :)
I know mate i know....i'm just playin' :lol:

Great score mate. Looks great. Love the narrow spoke.

Buy some good lock nuts, man :idea: ;).
Thanks Erik :D

Are the Gorilla ones as good as people say or are there better ones on the market?

:cheers: Blokes

scat2k3

09-05-2008, 06:59 AM

They have come up really nicely! I was a bit sceptical seeing the rim pictures on the previous page but they look tough on your car. Nice work! :driving:

Ain't that the truth Dunc?

It's so hard to visualise how a thumbnail of a rim will look on your car.

Great choice Darrin, they look fantastic.

Cheers,

Scott

WOMBIE

09-05-2008, 07:34 AM

Ain't that the truth Dunc?

It's so hard to visualise how a thumbnail of a rim will look on your car.
Great choice Darrin, they look fantastic.

Cheers,

Scott
Thanks for positive feedback Scott but your about trying to visualise how they will look just from a pic.
That's why my decision to even get rims took about 12 months and another 4 deciding which one's

Definately look much better in the flesh :yep:

:cheers:

firebug

09-05-2008, 09:07 AM

Thanks Erik :D

Are the Gorilla ones as good as people say or are there better ones on the market?

:cheers: Blokes

From what I saw at the last private day at WSID, Eric had Gorilla nuts on his car and had forgotton the key. Those nuts then endured the beating of a lifetime to try and get them off, but with no success. I didn't get to see the lock nuts after the bashing but they must have been in good enough nick to remove them with the key when it eventually arrived. :eek:

I'd like to know what they are worth and are they available everywhere? :confused:

NickS

09-05-2008, 09:57 AM

I'd like to know what they are worth and are they available everywhere? :confused:

Contact Wheel King through LS1 Bill ... I bought 3 sets last week ... $66 each including the GST.

... and yes, after watching everyone try to remove Erik's, I was convinced.

DaveHAT

09-05-2008, 10:17 AM

Contact Wheel King through LS1 Bill ... I bought 3 sets last week ... $66 each including the GST.

... and yes, after watching everyone try to remove Erik's, I was convinced.

A hammer is not usually used to remove wheels? :confused:

:D

Me thinks I should get a set of these monkey nuts, gotta protect me valuable 17" rims !!!

:werd:

WOMBIE

09-05-2008, 04:04 PM

I'm getting a set of gorilla nuts tomorrow and a pure1 purolator oil filter thrown in as well....damn i'm good.

Now pics as promised but i warn you all that the Possum forgot her camera so i had to use my phone....think i'm gunna have to take lessons especially about not falling down...more on that in a moment.

These were taken at a spot in Wentworth Falls where we went for a little drive today to get some Mainlube gearbox oil apart from 1.....anyway

At home before we left and that's where the camera stayed
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w262/QIK346/drag200.jpg

In the car park shots
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w262/QIK346/drag203.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w262/QIK346/drag202.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w262/QIK346/drag201.jpg

And for the grand finale....

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w262/QIK346/drag205.jpg

I fell off a retaining wall whilst taking this shot but landed on my feet (at that brief moment thanking God very much) only to trip over a couple of steps later :o near breaking my ankle to the ruckus applause of some tourists :bravo:

I shit you not and when faced with this unruly crowd i gave em a show alright :moon: :flip2:.......who's laughin' now huh :lol:

Anyway guys i hope you like.....i'm goin' to get some help!

Cheers

boyley

09-05-2008, 06:13 PM

love em darren, good choice matey:woohoo:

WOMBIE

09-05-2008, 06:20 PM

Cheers Rob....i'm very pleased with them :)

lautray

10-05-2008, 09:45 AM

From what I saw at the last private day at WSID, Eric had Gorilla nuts on his car and had forgotton the key. Those nuts then endured the beating of a lifetime to try and get them off, but with no success. I didn't get to see the lock nuts after the bashing but they must have been in good enough nick to remove them with the key when it eventually arrived. :eek:

Actually the lock nuts are still fine and in use. These are a top product. Would need some real tools to get them off sans key. $66 is uber cheap too. I bought mine from WheelKing Moorabbin (Vic) for ~$110 shipped, a couple of years ago. Though, I think I may invest in another key as I've almost lost it on several occasions now :doh:.

WOMBIE

10-05-2008, 12:00 PM

Yep i've heard nothing but good comments about them so i got a set today.

Put them on and they're very inconspicuous given the wheel design and i've now got peace of mind too.

firebug

10-05-2008, 05:21 PM

Contact Wheel King through LS1 Bill ... I bought 3 sets last week ... $66 each including the GST.

... and yes, after watching everyone try to remove Erik's, I was convinced.

Cheers Nick, I'll do the PM thingy...

Wheels look great too by the way Wombie... :cheers:

Bermudablue

22-05-2008, 07:46 PM

Love the wheels.I've been umming and aghhing about them for a couple of months(besides another dozen wheels)
My VY is silver and has 350/332 brakes

WOMBIE

22-05-2008, 08:20 PM

Cheers Nick, I'll do the PM thingy...

Wheels look great too by the way Wombie... :cheers:
Been a while to respond but thanks mate...how are the vids going :)

Love the wheels.I've been umming and aghhing about them for a couple of months(besides another dozen wheels)
My VY is silver and has 350/332 brakes
:cheers: blue

Mate start a thread if you like and get someone to photo shop both designs of wheel on your ride (and narrow down the other dozen down to about 2 or 3) and go from there.If not try and throw up some pics of what your looking at,either way you'll get some educated opinions from the boys here at TC.

I've seen the XHP chrome ones on Steve's (GMMAD) white VX and on lighter coloured cars they look sensational :yep:

Edit:I see your already on it!

:cheers:

VXGTS

27-06-2008, 09:50 AM

I have used the FK-452 in 19's also. I thought they were fab. Great value for money & the grip was grand in wet & dry. I'd look at Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3. Although, not sure if they are available in 19's. And don't know whether they'd be any good for drag racing either.

Definately available in 19s in 245/35/19s i had em on my GTS rims before i went to 20s. You want a problem finding good tyres, try 20s... all of them are gay for 20s in the right load rating. I too am stuck with Nankang in235/35/20s. I cant get 245/35/20s as they wont clear the front Struts. Im going to trial fit a set of Eagle F1 GS-D3s as they were just released in 245/35/20s and heard they are great!

NickS

27-06-2008, 12:15 PM

Definately available in 19s in 245/35/19s i had em on my GTS rims before i went to 20s. You want a problem finding good tyres, try 20s... all of them are gay for 20s in the right load rating. I too am stuck with Nankang in235/35/20s. I cant get 245/35/20s as they wont clear the front Struts. Im going to trial fit a set of Eagle F1 GS-D3s as they were just released in 245/35/20s and heard they are great!

Pretty easy with the VE 20's ... I have the Falken FK-452 on the GTS, 245/35/20 fronts and 285/30/20 rears.

:thumbs:

VXGTS

27-06-2008, 03:10 PM

Pretty easy with the VE 20's ... I have the Falken FK-452 on the GTS, 245/35/20 fronts and 285/30/20 rears.

:thumbs:

Yea mate, not helping me :( ... VT-VZ have small front strut towers apparently. I ordered a whiteline strut brace last week hoping that stiffens up the front end before i try changing tyres. Another option is getting 245/30s, which MAY fit, but may also foul the strut. And even then no manufacturer makes them with the legal load rating and the tyres would be way too thin!

If the strut brace doesnt do a good enough job ill try the 245/35s and if they dont fit ill look into getting coilovers.... all for 10mm (and much better quality)!!!! damn!:headbang: