Lardarse Limo goes 12sec

[lautray]

Got word from wsid that Duncan & the caprice ran 12.95@107.7! with a 1.9 60' :woohoo: . Superb result for a race weight of 1875kg on the wsid scales :shock: .

I'm sure Duncan will fill in the blanks with more detail when he gets home.

Well done Dunc & Russo.

[lautray]

Update: 12.92@108!

[Delft Maloo]

thats a hauling barge arse

[SSUte01]

Apart from the awesome time what's different this time around or is it still stock standard with OTR and MAFless tune now with suitably fiddled shifts etc.

[NickS]

Apart from the awesome time what's different this time around or is it still stock standard with OTR and MAFless tune now with suitably fiddled shifts etc.

Spoke with Dunc last night Luke, at that point it still had the stock tune in it (+ the baby seat) !!! I gather the attempt tonight was mainly taking advantage of the cold air, probably pulled out the spare and the baby seat and possibly some auto tweaks too ?

Well done mate ... does she still feel "doughy"

:stick:

[DaveHAT]

These 6lt engines sure are a good thing.

Good going to Dunc and the Russo boys ... sensational effort for tune and OTR only, especially at the weight.

Compared against the Goon ... with similar-ish mp/h and a 13.1 at similar weight ... makes the ole L98 a pretty fair sort of gadget.

Congrats.

:cheers:

[35R]

Thanks for posting up dudes.

Phew, just got home, these WSID days are veeery long. I was there for about 5 hours and got 3 runs :( BUT we got to the 12 second "stocker" pass!! Just washed the car again (got all the offending rubber bits off the car and transplanted all kids gear back in (boosters, baby seat etc). Tucked away all clean now in the garage.

We ran the stocker 18" rear tyres again, however this time we tweaked the tune and only ran 1/4 tank of fuel, and we did run the 18" x 4" space savers radial fronts. I will point out these "front runners" are 18kg each, vs about 23~25kg for the stocker fronts, so the saving isnt as huge as with some front runners (my welds are like 5kg each).

So there you have it, basically an intake + tune can get you a 12 second pass with these things, even with a barge Caprice AND doughy auto as well. these things are a good bit of gear for what they are, but the main thing that makes it possible is the Russo intake and custom dyno tune (tweaked again today).

Thanks Russo's

[35R]

Here is the video, not the most exciting footage granted! it was like sitting in my loungeroom really.

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[Pulse Red]

Well done guys! That is one fast Caprice!

What sort of RWKW and torque does this car make?

[35R]

Well done guys! That is one fast Caprice!

What sort of RWKW and torque does this car make?

Dunno about the torque numbers but yesterday it made 240rwkw on the dyno. This number is right on the money vs the MPH. I use this chart (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2241/2177968844_c7348e637b_o.jpg) to correlate rwkw to MPH, it's usually very close (for commodores). The chart was constructed using data from the ls1 timeslip database.

There was 400rwkw TT VE GTS there last night - it ran 12.5's at 109mph.... I dont know why some of these big HP VE's arent running the numbers, it has me stumped.

[EL-346]

congrats on the great time

[NickS]

There was 400rwkw TT VE GTS there last night - it ran 12.5's at 109mph ...

12.5 could be explained by someone who hasn't set the car up for drag racing and hasn't really ever practised running down the 1/4.

I think you need to keep in mind just how long you guys have been working on Mick's car and just how many runs Mick has had to get the stage he is at. Stick a newbie in his car and it would probably be running 13.2 and everyone would be saying "what's wrong with that car".

:confused:

Having said that ... if it's running 109mph there is no way it's making 400 at the wheels. It should be well over 120mph regardless of the time ... I think ?

[35R]

12.5 could be explained by someone who hasn't set the car up for drag racing and hasn't really ever practised running down the 1/4.

I think you need to keep in mind just how long you guys have been working on Mick's car and just how many runs Mick has had to get the stage he is at. Stick a newbie in his car and it would probably be running 13.2 and everyone would be saying "what's wrong with that car".

:confused:

Having said that ... if it's running 109mph there is no way it's making 400 at the wheels. It should be well over 120mph regardless of the time ... I think ?

You'd think so. Even just driving it off the line.

[Duffman]

Nice effort Dunc. Good time for a tuned luxobarge :)

if it's running 109mph there is no way it's making 400 at the wheels. It should be well over 120mph regardless of the time ... I think ?

Heaps of wheelspin maybe? that's only 1mph more than my car makes with a 150rwkw+ handicap :eek:

[Delft Maloo]

Having said that ... if it's running 109mph there is no way it's making 400 at the wheels. It should be well over 120mph regardless of the time ... I think ?


my ute has dyno'd anywhere bettween 377-399rwkw on different dynos and boost levels and at our private day at wsid on about 9psi 380+rwkw i mostly ran in the 12.5's with around 2-2.2 60ft's but nearly all my mph's were around 122mph. With a 2.0 60ft ran a 11.89@ 122mph on the limiter, actually all my passes were on the rpm limiter in 4th at 6200rpm till the clutch started playing up which dropped me about 5mph at the traps.
Any thing with that power regardless of launch should be seeing 120+mph

[veewhytu]

Congrats guys, a good effort in the big barge indeed...its the et on stockers that really shows how good the 6l with the revised ve chassis is

When there's results, there is always some that say....driver this, practice that, bout time youve had enough goes at it...i agree completely,this is what a 6l should be capable of...but when are some of the other leading industry tuner /developers going to show us their wares and join the party .....or is it secret ;)

Anyways to go off topic for a sec...

Mick has kindly offered in the name of comedy to let me run his car down the strip...my only manual experience in the last 2 years is borrowing a mates vy tune only ss about 6 mnths ago for a week and putting about between building sites....ive never even been within 30kms of Wsid in a manual :o ....stay tuned :D

I have no preconceptions about being good...in fact i know i'll be embarisingly shit :o ...but the mph will be interesting....waste of a good run really...but it'll give the boys plenty of ammo to put crap on me for the next 6 months :lol:

[Delft Maloo]

You know you will only give mick a bigger head proving how good he can actually drive:confused: :confused: :confused: :yep:

[mick]

lets go rick i think you will do ok you still know how to drive i will take a guess and say you will run a 12.000

[MID02K]

Congrats to all involved, thats a great result!!!
I used to love the WSID Street meets, but i have been out in years, for that reason, 5 hours there for 3-4 runs....

And its always the same guys out there in cars that definately are street drivable somehow managing all the runs?? :confused: end rant...

But thats impressive for a big ole barge....

[NickS]

When there's results, there is always some that say....driver this, practice that, bout time youve had enough goes at it...i agree completely,this is what a 6l should be capable of...but when are some of the other leading industry tuner /developers going to show us their wares and join the party .....or is it secret ;)

I think the problem is that they need a customer interested in trying mate ... besides Mick and SSEnforcer there aren't really any VE drivers in Sydney trying to run times.

As I said earlier, I'm not trying to say that you guys haven't achieved something special (because you have). I'm just trying to shed some light on why there aren't others running the same times ... yet.

e.g. ... Marrano's. Carl has probably done the most runs in a VE out of Marrano's ... and I think he has done about 8 runs, all on street tyres. I have had a VE for over 18 months and it's never seen the strip, never will either ... I'm just not interested.

However ... one more time ... Team Russo is without a doubt the boys to chase ... and I reckon that's awesome.

:thumbs:

[35R]

Just to clarify the point i was making before "I dont know why some of these big HP VE's arent running the numbers, it has me stumped." I mean just that really, cars that have north of 350 or 400kw running really shithouse mph. I've seen a few now at WSID. Admittedly not a lot of cars, but still they went to the track for a reason; we take notice of these perhaps more than others, as we are all pretty interested in whats happening with the development of these latest cars, but they end up running slower than bolt-ons? or 2mph faster than a basically stock Caprice. It's just odd.

[NickS]

Just to clarify the point i was making before "I dont know why some of these big HP VE's arent running the numbers, it has me stumped." I mean just that really, cars that have north of 350 or 400kw running really shithouse mph. I've seen a few now at WSID. Admittedly not a lot of cars, but still they went to the track for a reason; we take notice of these perhaps more than others, as we are all pretty interested in whats happening with the development of these latest cars, but they end up running slower than bolt-ons? or 2mph faster than a basically stock Caprice. It's just odd.

Agree with you 100% on that one mate ... anything with that much grunt should be well over 120mph ... 400rwkw and < 110mph is just complete BS.

[Chris@Russo]

I think the problem is that they need a customer interested in trying mate ... besides Mick and SSEnforcer there aren't really any VE drivers in Sydney trying to run times.

As I said earlier, I'm not trying to say that you guys haven't achieved something special (because you have). I'm just trying to shed some light on why there aren't others running the same times ... yet.

e.g. ... Marrano's. Carl has probably done the most runs in a VE out of Marrano's ... and I think he has done about 8 runs, all on street tyres. I have had a VE for over 18 months and it's never seen the strip, never will either ... I'm just not interested.

However ... one more time ... Team Russo is without a doubt the boys to chase ... and I reckon that's awesome.
:thumbs:


Nick as you know we are frequently at wsid and there is definently plenty of people trying, there is always a couple of ve's out there having a go.
Suprisingly most ve owners come over and ask questions about micks car and in turn tell us about there own mods and where they were performed.
Most have dyno sheets in ther glovebox that make micks car look weak, then they hit the track struggle to run 105 mph.

Then we have Duncs Caprice which is not exactly the perfect test mule, and with no effort we simply put our OTR on and a mafless tune and the results were as expected 12.92 @ 108.
I dont think you can really go wrong driving the auto.
Im sure there is plenty of autos out there with all the fruit. You dont here about them as know one is going to brag about spending there hard ernt dollars to perform no better than standard.

[Stelth]

Well done once again boys .

Great effort.

I got your second run on video but i did not know it was you at the time and mostly got little Johnny's VT .

I forgot hoe to embed the video on here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-x4ofYrWO0

[Stelth]

Trying to embed the youtube video . . . sorry

[Stelth]

v-x4ofYrWO0

[35R]

Nice work thanks Johnny. That VT makes the barge look like it's standing still.