Cordless Impact Wrench, what's good

[35R]

I think it's time to buy a cordless impact wrench, whats currently good?

I was looking at a Milwaukee one (with 610Nm!!) Can you possibly have too much power? (for just changing car wheels)?

What have you used, what's good?

[god084]

I've got Milwauke cordless drill and driver 18v li-ion and it freaking rocks but i'd go for the 28V if i was you. Alot of steel workers use them so they would have to be good enough for wheel nuts

[Dan_]

Ive used the snap on 18v one several times. It works well. Its fast and tightens them up well. Also removes them with ease.

[Kyle]

Makita 18v Lithium one is fantastic mate..

http://www.makita.com.au/products/lxt/lithium-ion/item/lithium-ion/btw450rfe-18v-lxt-mobile-impact-wrench?Prodid=

450nm

Can get you a super discount?

[35R]

Makita 18v Lithium one is fantastic mate..

http://www.makita.com.au/products/lxt/lithium-ion/item/lithium-ion/btw450rfe-18v-lxt-mobile-impact-wrench?Prodid=

450nm

Can get you a super discount?

Yes please, as long as it has enough juice to UNCRACK wheel nuts, reasonably fast charge (1hr?) and a decent carry case.

[ghz28]

Another vote for anything 18V plus and Lithium. My DeWalt was pretty good with the NiMH battery, but is way way better with the new Lithium one.

[raven ute]

this is all you need ot know about impact wrenches

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5627uNhaeA

[DRE]

I don't think the same applies to normal wheel nuts but I found the cordless ones (even the Snap On CT4850) would struggle a little bit on the centre wheel nuts when it's really hot. It's fine once it cools down a bit.

This is the one I bought. Not cordless or light.

http://www.sydneytools.com.au/shopexd.asp?id=975&bc=no

[wag]

this is all you need ot know about impact wrenches

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5627uNhaeA

If you go to the Snap-on site they say they are no longer being sold ???

I was looking at the larger of the Makita range. Not cheap though.

http://www.justtools.com.au/prod6235.htm

[Kyle]

I don't think the same applies to normal wheel nuts but I found the cordless ones (even the Snap On CT4850) would struggle a little bit on the centre wheel nuts when it's really hot. It's fine once it cools down a bit.

This is the one I bought. Not cordless or light.

http://www.sydneytools.com.au/shopexd.asp?id=975&bc=no

Tell me you're not using that on the wheel nuts!

Dunc i'll make a call tomorrow and get you a price.. And yep 40 min charge on a 3ah battery

[DRE]

Tell me you're not using that on the wheel nuts!

Yep :) Probably overkill on normal wheel nuts. It's the only one that has enough torque to loosen the centre nuts 100% of the time.

[05 VZ SS]

I have Kinchrome one...Absolute beaut! Undoes the hardest tightest bolts with ease!

[Kyle]

Yep :) Probably overkill on normal wheel nuts. It's the only one that has enough torque to loosen the centre nuts 100% of the time.

PS... If you use it a bit for HD applications then you will find that the hammer and anvil impacting faces will be rounded, reducing the torque output a LOT...

Bye bye 1KNm :bash:

[Dan_]

Ive also used this one Dunc.

http://www.longacreracing.com/catalog/item.asp?id=1322&catid=6

Was as good as the snap-on one

[10sec_rx7]

ive had a snap on one for 5 years and its always undone everything, makes changing tyres a snap

[35R]

so how does a mere mortal buy snap-on?

where's my price kyle?

;)

[10sec_rx7]

just look for a snap on truck!

there is one that comes past us every week i can get his number for you if you want

[Kyle]

so how does a mere mortal buy snap-on?

where's my price kyle?

;)
I'll make a call for you on Monday Dunc mate :)

just look for a snap on truck!

there is one that comes past us every week i can get his number for you if you want

That sucker should be expensive hey Dale???

[10sec_rx7]

$880 apparently! the snap on guy was just in here

[NickS]

so how does a mere mortal buy snap-on?

One of the snap-on guys lives down the road from me mate ... I can get his number for you if you want to ask him anything, he's a top bloke.

[Kyle]

Dunc i'll send you a PM tomorrow with the makita pricing mate. Should definitely be under $880

[35R]

$880 apparently! the snap on guy was just in here

Next time can you grab his number? thanks.

[35R]

Dunc i'll send you a PM tomorrow with the makita pricing mate. Should definitely be under $880

Please do, thanks Kyle.

[Kyle]

Duncan

Mate I can do you the wrench, 2 3ah lithium batteries, 30 min fast charger and case for $770..

Sydney tools (cheapest makita dealer in aus) has it for $860 http://www.sydneytools.com.au/shopexd.asp?id=12418&bc=no

Let me know mate and i'll organize it :)

[raven ute]

for the extra $110 i would be grabing the snap on with the life time warrenty (no matter what) best on the market IMHO used quite a few and its like silk

[10sec_rx7]

ive had my snap on for a long time, like over 5 years and still going on the orignal batterys.. cant beat them,

ill get the guys number tomorrow dunc..

[Kyle]

for the extra $110 i would be grabing the snap on with the life time warrenty (no matter what) best on the market IMHO used quite a few and its like silk

On the batteries too? Not likely :)

Edit.. just did some more searching.. Yeah good luck with the lifetime warranty on this particular tool

[VYSHSV8]

This 1 should work :)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/VYSHSV8/th_CordlessDrill.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/VYSHSV8/?action=view&current=CordlessDrill.flv)

[35R]

thanks Kyle/Dale

Dale what sort of power does the snap on unit have? how long does it take to charge approx. and how long does it last you reckon?

Kyle is yours really only 30mins to charge? have you used it yourself and is 440nm enough to crack a nut done up to 125nm easily? I know 440 is a bigger number than 125 but that doesnt necessarily mean much.

[JEVO]

Dunc I have been using the snap on for 3 years. I initially bought it for our business, had back to back comparisons with blue point and wurth air rattle guns. Has the power of top air guns. Torque is sustained quite well with battery drain.

Go with whats proven. One downside is the release characteristic. Air guns stop very quickly with air resistance so overtightening is lessened. The snap on just coasts down to a stop. I've seen other battery operated impact wrenches which incorporate a brake after trigger release, I think dewalt or milwakee. I use kinchrome torque limiting sockets with the gun, they tighten to 100nm and click over there after. I then use a torque wrench to about 110nm. Surprisingly accurate sockets.

Just some points to consider from my workshop experience.

[35R]

Dunc I have been using the snap on for 3 years. I initially bought it for our business, had back to back comparisons with blue point and wurth air rattle guns. Has the power of top air guns. Torque is sustained quite well with battery drain.

Go with whats proven. One downside is the release characteristic. Air guns stop very quickly with air resistance so overtightening is lessened. The snap on just coasts down to a stop. I've seen other battery operated impact wrenches which incorporate a brake after trigger release, I think dewalt or milwakee. I use kinchrome torque limiting sockets with the gun, they tighten to 100nm and click over there after. I then use a torque wrench to about 110nm. Surprisingly accurate sockets.

Just some points to consider from my workshop experience.

thanks Jase that's helpful

[JEVO]

Regarding the snap on charge time. You would realistically not use a 1/2 inch rechargeable rattle gun below 50% power. Full charge is less than 30 mins, possibly 20 min.

[Kyle]

Duncan I can get you a demo tool for the weekend if you like?

[Kyle]

Dunc I have just organized a loan tool for you for the week after next so you can compare it for yourself mate.

Fwiw I don't work for Makita anymore, I make nothing if you buy the Makita tool, I'm just giving you options :)

for the snap on guys, how much does a battery cost to replace?

[35R]

Dunc I have just organized a loan tool for you for the week after next so you can compare it for yourself mate.

Fwiw I don't work for Makita anymore, I make nothing if you buy the Makita tool, I'm just giving you options :)

for the snap on guys, how much does a battery cost to replace?

Wow, thanks Kyle!

[Kyle]

On one condition, you gotta take me for a spin in the gtr :D

[35R]

On one condition, you gotta take me for a spin in the gtr :D

done.




:yep:

[savvy]

done.




:yep:

If i bring a Snap On and kinchrome one down can i go for a spin too? :stick:
The kinchrome is shite and i would not recommend it.....:attn:

Snap On or Milwakee i reckon won't let you down, although i haven't got a Milwakee impact wrench. After using one of their drills at work for 6yrs, i bought one for home as the build quality is awsome and it is a durable product.

Yes, Snap On warranty on wear and tear does not exist just like any other product on the market, it would be unreasonable to sell a product like that and have a "lifetime" warranty. They will usually honour true warranty issues however if needed.

[NickS]

Sydney tools (cheapest makita dealer in aus) has it for $860 ...

Clearly you're not a Snap-On fan mate ... but that's only $20 cheaper than the Snap-On price, bugger all. The way you've been going on I thought the Makita one would be half the price!

Snap-On has the reputation it has for a reason ... if the tools were shit people would stop buying them. They may be price at the top end of the scale but clearly most in the trade are prepared to pay for quality.

:yep:

[Kyle]

Clearly you're not a Snap-On fan mate ... but that's only $20 cheaper than the Snap-On price, bugger all. The way you've been going on I thought the Makita one would be half the price!

Snap-On has the reputation it has for a reason ... if the tools were shit people would stop buying them. They may be price at the top end of the scale but clearly most in the trade are prepared to pay for quality.

:yep:

Not at all Nick!
I have a snap on ring spanner kit and a couple of strips of deep and shallow sockets, cost me a good dollar but I do love them.
PS, the price I gave dunc was not $20 cheaper, it was around $150 cheaper.


PPS, the Makita tool has 40nm more torque too btw

[NickS]

PS, the price I gave dunc was not $20 cheaper, it was around $150 cheaper.

I realise that ... I was comparing retail prices, not mates rates on one side but not the other.

:yep:

Anyway ...

[Kyle]

I don't think you will get any sort of mates rates from snap on.

:yep:

Anyway ...

[10sec_rx7]

for the snap on guys, how much does a battery cost to replace?

never had to replace one yet..

[35R]

my local tool place has the milwaukee impact driver for about $890 (600+mn!!). I asked him where it was made and the answer "GERMANY" then i had a quick look at the unit itself it was stickered "make in china" lol. I dunno guys, i am not prepared to make any biggoted decisions, let's play noice :)

[Kyle]

never had to replace one yet..

That's cool Dale, No problems :)


I am going to just say this again... I don't have any issues with Snap On products at all. Simple.
In fact, I couldn't give a shit what Duncan ends up buying to be honest.

Duncan you should just buy the snap on wrench mate.

[Kyle]

my local tool place has the milwaukee impact driver for about $890 (600+mn!!). I asked him where it was made and the answer "GERMANY" then i had a quick look at the unit itself it was stickered "make in china" lol. I dunno guys, i am not prepared to make any biggoted decisions, let's play noice :)

Funny he says that because milwaukee's an American company too...lol

All cordless tools seem to come out of china these days, Makita, Dewalt, milwaukee, bosch, etc etc.. Quite possibly snap on too.

[JEVO]

never had to replace one yet..
+1

Dunc I'll lend you my 3yr old snap on, just be gentle on your studs.

[god084]

Apples and oranges imo. Our steel fixers use the 28V 1/2 inch drivers all day fixing off 24mm bolts and they drop them, treat them like crap and over heat them all the time but the still work just fine!

[Dave R]

all the boys at the workshops are using the snap-on. good piece of kit, life time warranty (not that u need it with snap-on items) and u can usually work the snap-on man to throw in something with it :P haha

[Kyle]

all the boys at the workshops are using the snap-on. good piece of kit, life time warranty (not that u need it with snap-on items) and u can usually work the snap-on man to throw in something with it :P haha

deja' vu...:eyes:

[35R]

quick question: does the snapon come with two batteries, charger and case?

[savvy]

quick question: does the snapon come with two batteries, charger and case?

Dunc, i asked the Snap On rep today.
$878 for each of the below options,

Impact driver, 2 NiCad batts and case

or

Impact driver, 1 Lithium batt and case

1 year warranty and repair kits available if ever required.

[.charged.]

A mate had a hitachi 14.4v (http://www.sydneytools.com.au/shopexd.asp?id=1348&bc=no) cordless rattle gun last weekend at Bathurst, it serviced 5 cars for qualifying and 4 races which involved wheels off/on on all cars after each session. It never needed charging and buzzed the nuts off no worries at 85ft/lb-115nm no worries, we actually only nipped up the wheels as the impact driver was too powerful...... very happy... will use my mates again:dance:

[JEVO]

Found this,
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Snap-On-Drills-Cordless-18V-Drill-Cordless-18V-Impact_W0QQitemZ180490557966QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_ Hand_Tools?hash=item2a06135a0e