Rbs Matt - Offer To Purchase

[RBS MATT]

I have been asked to put some parts in with prices but what i will suggest is i can get better prices for "group buys" etc or qty's of the same brand .What i would like to know is what does everyone need ,want or use and i will compile some prices for you
eg.
Car model :
Parts :
Brand :

[exploder]

Matt,

How about as a a way to kick this off give a rough idea on some general setups?

I'm interested in an upgrade for a car that goes to WSID on a semi regular basis (rears that fit under 15" rims would be good), it occasionally tows a horse float and I would like to visit Wakefield on rare occasions and do more than two laps at a time. The car is a VYII wagon, so its on the heavy side of the Commodore scale.

My current short list is;

1. Disc and pad upgrade.
2. PBR PK1 Kit or just C5 or 6 fronts and keep current rears with disc up grade.
3. 4 spot fronts of some type with an upgraded rear to match.

Obviously options 2 and 3 may not fit under 15" rims

Cheers,

Jarrod

[Kyle]

Rotors/pads/braided lines/clutch for 2006 BA xr6 turbo sedan please sir :)

[35R]

It would be good to have a couple of entry level packages for commodore/falcon

Budget - Level 1

2 x OEM size Front RDA Slotted Rotors
2 x OEM size Rear RDA Slotted Rotors
Matching EBC pads (say greenstuff)
Super Dot 4 fluid

Budget - Level 2

2 x OEM size Front DBA 4000 Slotted Rotors
2 x OEM size Rear DBA 4000 Slotted Rotors
Matching Ferodo pads
Super Dot 4 fluid

Budget - Level 3

Possibly larger sized rotors, calipers and matching pads/fluid (say 330mm)

And a few of your big brake packages

It might be an idea to put a time limit on your prices. You wOuldnt want someone reading this a year down the track and holding you to a price.

[BLK 1T]

LSX-402
Good selection of starting points there mate, just had slotted OEMsize discs fitted to the front of the tonner B4 Xmas :headbang:
Matt
Could you also indicate what size wheel fits over each package - at least the OEM sized wheels, I realise this wouldnt be definitive on aftermarket wheels. Maybe it could read "should fit under most XX rims" unless you know for certain it does or does not.

Phil

[RBS MATT]

OK i will put some great prices down and see what you think.We have other brake upgrade kits available in larger sizes and also sell SBS and Ferodo road and track pads amongst others like Hawk,EBC etc

PBR braided hoses are the best fit for std line replacement as they have all the std fittings obviously because PBR made the std rubber lines.
DBA rotors are Australian made for ford and holden but i can get rda if people want a cheaper alternative.

Commodores
1.PBR braided hoses VP to VZ $145 a pair (you will see quality)
2.Goodridge custom made braided hoses from $145 a pair
3. DBA slotted rotors $95 EACH
DBA 015 , DBA 016 , DBA 017 , DBA 035 , DBA 040 , DBA 041
4.DBA 4000 series slotted $155 EACH
DBA 4016 DBA 4035 DBA 4040 DBA 4041
5.DBA 4000 series slotted $170.00 each
DBA 4015 , DBA 4017
6.PROTEX CERAMIC full face like police pad (street only) $40.00 a set
7.Ferodo Formula T2000 from $140 a set
8.C4 330mm twin piston upgrade front VB-VZ from
$995 unslotted rubber hoses
$1150 slotted rotors , braided lines
9.PBR Brake upgrade kits $2150.00
10.AP Racing 4 piston with 330mm slotted rotors,braided lines VB to VZ front kit from $2500 (larger kits available up to 381mm)
11.AP Racing 4 piston 315mm rear slotted and vented kit for VT-VZ from $2400
12.315mm rear slotted and vented kit using existing single piston caliper for VT - VZ from $850.00

FORDS
1.PBR braided hoses EA to BA $145 a pair (you will see quality)
2.Goodridge custom made braided hoses from $145 a pair
3.DBA Slotted rotors from XB to BA std size $102.50 EACH
4.DBA Slotted 4000 series AU to BA $155 EACH
5.Protex ceramic street pads $40.00
6.Ferodo Formula T2000 pads from $140.00
7.XY to XF front twin piston upgrade from $995.00
8.PBR upgrade kit AU11 to BA $2150.00
9.BREMBO 4 pot caliper 338mm slotted 2 piece rotor front BA from $3150.00
10.BREMBO rear 4 pot caliper with 330mm slotted rotor AU11 on from $2605
11.AP Racing 4 piston front 330mm slotted rotors AU11 on from $3150.00
12.BREMBO AND AP RACING 355MM AND 365MM PACKAGES AVAILABLE.


SUBARU and SUBARU WRX
1.DBA slotted rotors from $125 each
2.Braided hose kits front and rear coloured $295.00
3.Ferodo Formula T2000 from $140
4.STI Brembo upgrade kits slotted rotors braided lines front or rear for subaru from $2350 AP Racing kits from $315.00

So :whip: into action and let me know
The prices are for stock available only not custom orders or backorders.

**NEW STOCK TODAY VT to VZ REAR VENTED DISC WITH C SLOTTING TO REPLACE EXISTING SOLID DISC NO MODIFICATIONS AT ALL -THESE ARE NEW MOLYCARBIDE SLOTTED ROTORS ALSO FRONT UP TO 30 % LIGHTER and MORE STRONGER LESS WEARING AND COOLER RUNNING.$250 A PAIR FRONT OR REAR**

[Brockfan05]

Sorry to sound like a broken record, but is there anything for the VE Commodore available yet? If not, what sort of time frame am I looking at before kits/components become available? Thanks Matt.

[VooDoo]

Hi mate.

I have a set of 330mm DBA's up front and 315mm up the back and want a price on replacing the calipers and brackets to an AP setup. I already have braided lines, decent rotors etc so want to replace calipers only.

Im sure there are a few ppl with the C5 corvette/HSV setup that would like to go to a better caliper.

Are the AP calipers on the 343mm fronts the same as the 330mm ones?

[35R]

OK i will put some great prices down and see what you think.We have other brake upgrade kits available in larger sizes and also sell SBS and Ferodo road and track pads amongst others like Hawk,EBC etc

PBR braided hoses are the best fit for std line replacement as they have all the std fittings obviously because PBR made the std rubber lines.
DBA rotors are Australian made for ford and holden but i can get rda if people want a cheaper alternative.

Commodores
1.PBR braided hoses VP to VZ $145 a pair (you will see quality)
2.Goodridge custom made braided hoses from $145 a pair
3. DBA slotted rotors $95 EACH
DBA 015 , DBA 016 , DBA 017 , DBA 035 , DBA 040 , DBA 041
4.DBA 4000 series slotted $155 EACH
DBA 4016 DBA 4035 DBA 4040 DBA 4041
5.DBA 4000 series slotted $170.00 each
DBA 4015 , DBA 4017
6.PROTEX CERAMIC full face like police pad (street only) $40.00 a set
7.Ferodo Formula T2000 from $140 a set
8.C4 330mm twin piston upgrade front VB-VZ from
$995 unslotted rubber hoses
$1150 slotted rotors , braided lines
9.PBR Brake upgrade kits $2150.00
10.AP Racing 4 piston with 330mm slotted rotors,braided lines VB to VZ front kit from $2500 (larger kits available up to 381mm)
11.AP Racing 4 piston 315mm rear slotted and vented kit for VT-VZ from $2400
12.315mm rear slotted and vented kit using existing single piston caliper for VT - VZ from $850.00

FORDS
1.PBR braided hoses EA to BA $145 a pair (you will see quality)
2.Goodridge custom made braided hoses from $145 a pair
3.DBA Slotted rotors from XB to BA std size $102.50 EACH
4.DBA Slotted 4000 series AU to BA $155 EACH
5.Protex ceramic street pads $40.00
6.Ferodo Formula T2000 pads from $140.00
7.XY to XF front twin piston upgrade from $995.00
8.PBR upgrade kit AU11 to BA $2150.00
9.BREMBO 4 pot caliper 338mm slotted 2 piece rotor front BA from $3150.00
10.BREMBO rear 4 pot caliper with 330mm slotted rotor AU11 on from $2605
11.AP Racing 4 piston front 330mm slotted rotors AU11 on from $3150.00
12.BREMBO AND AP RACING 355MM AND 365MM PACKAGES AVAILABLE.


SUBARU and SUBARU WRX
1.DBA slotted rotors from $125 each
2.Braided hose kits front and rear coloured $295.00
3.Ferodo Formula T2000 from $140
4.STI Brembo upgrade kits slotted rotors braided lines front or rear for subaru from $2350 AP Racing kits from $315.00

So :whip: into action and let me know
The prices are for stock available only not custom orders or backorders.

**NEW STOCK TODAY VT to VZ REAR VENTED DISC WITH C SLOTTING TO REPLACE EXISTING SOLID DISC NO MODIFICATIONS AT ALL -THESE ARE NEW MOLYCARBIDE SLOTTED ROTORS ALSO FRONT UP TO 30 % LIGHTER and MORE STRONGER LESS WEARING AND COOLER RUNNING.$250 A PAIR FRONT OR REAR**

Thanks for that Matt, those are very keen prices!

[RBS MATT]

Sorry to sound like a broken record, but is there anything for the VE Commodore available yet? If not, what sort of time frame am I looking at before kits/components become available? Thanks Matt.
Broken record or scratched cd it doesn't matter .As long as you keep asking i know your serious.We are hoping the end of january or early feb.If you have a size or budget in mind we may be able to start something for you as a car may now be available to us to start.
The VE commodore as a different set up from previous models as far as brakes go with caliper mounts , wheel stud size , centre hole in disc , handbrake etc all being different so apart from using the same AP Calipers we will have to make new brackets , hats etc to fit.

[Y2kGoofball]

good on ya, just did brakes all round on the VX just before Chrissy, nothing too flash just new pads and DBA discs mainly for visual enhancement.

I know where to come next time though heh :eyes:

[dattoman]

Usually when going to the 343mm rotor you also go to a 6 piston AP
But 18's are the go as very few 17's will take the caliper

[Aeron]

I bought some Ferodo Formula T2000 pads for the XR6T from RBS MATT this morning and put them in after work. Fantastic pad! They have a nice feel too.
:)

[DaveHAT]

Hi mate.

I have a set of 330mm DBA's up front and 315mm up the back and want a price on replacing the calipers and brackets to an AP setup. I already have braided lines, decent rotors etc so want to replace calipers only.

Im sure there are a few ppl with the C5 corvette/HSV setup that would like to go to a better caliper.

Are the AP calipers on the 343mm fronts the same as the 330mm ones?

Good question, as per my question in the other thread Matt, do the AP 4 piston front/rear calipers fit with the 330/315 x 32mm rotors from the PBR/HSV brake kits.

IMO the PBR/HSV calipers are really no better than OEM and this might be a worthy upgrade as long as it is not cost prohibitive.

[RBS MATT]

Good question, as per my question in the other thread Matt, do the AP 4 piston front/rear calipers fit with the 330/315 x 32mm rotors from the PBR/HSV brake kits.

IMO the PBR/HSV calipers are really no better than OEM and this might be a worthy upgrade as long as it is not cost prohibitive.

The short answer is no fronts and yes rears.The longer answer is yes fronts with another AP caliper being modified and the rear as mentioned will fit with the right parts kit.This is something we are looking at doing because of many requests and we estimate the price to be about $4000.This will still fit under 17" wheels as any larger like 343mm etc need 18".
The other alternative is just do the front upgrade and leave the rear.

[RBS MATT]

Hi mate.

I have a set of 330mm DBA's up front and 315mm up the back and want a price on replacing the calipers and brackets to an AP setup. I already have braided lines, decent rotors etc so want to replace calipers only.

Im sure there are a few ppl with the C5 corvette/HSV setup that would like to go to a better caliper.

Are the AP calipers on the 343mm fronts the same as the 330mm ones?

As mentioned in the above reply.
The calipers are different from the 330mm to 343mm kits.
Another option i didn't mention is BREMBO 4 pot calipers.These can also be fitted to 330mm or 343mm front rotors if wanted but not rears.

[DaveHAT]

The short answer is no fronts and yes rears.The longer answer is yes fronts with another AP caliper being modified and the rear as mentioned will fit with the right parts kit.This is something we are looking at doing because of many requests and we estimate the price to be about $4000.This will still fit under 17" wheels as any larger like 343mm etc need 18".
The other alternative is just do the front upgrade and leave the rear.

Thanks for the reply Matt, much appreciated.

[Scotty]

SUBARU and SUBARU WRX
1.DBA slotted rotors from $125 each
2.Braided hose kits front and rear coloured $295.00
3.Ferodo Formula T2000 from $140
4.STI Brembo upgrade kits slotted rotors braided lines front or rear for subaru from $2350 AP Racing kits from $315.00


Matt,

Can you give some more details on these kits and what wheels they fit, and are there larger options?

[VooDoo]

As mentioned in the above reply.
The calipers are different from the 330mm to 343mm kits.
Another option i didn't mention is BREMBO 4 pot calipers.These can also be fitted to 330mm or 343mm front rotors if wanted but not rears.

Got some pricing on the Brembo's for the front? Im pushing over 2000kg atm and the poor 330mm with the C5 caliper isnt coping and ive had em smoking a few times. Cant afford a 6k upgrade just yet though, ill leave that for the next car

[RBS MATT]

Matt,

Can you give some more details on these kits and what wheels they fit, and are there larger options?
The kits are the STi Brembo kits and we do not have specs on wheels but the wheels need to have the same clearance as the STi wheels.
The AP Racing calipers on 330mm rotors should read $3150 and yes we can do 343mm 355mm 365mm or 381mm with 6 piston on front.
We can make anything and any size with 4 or 6 piston calipers but it boils down to three things. $$$$$$$$ , wheel size and availability of goods.

Got some pricing on the Brembo's for the front? Im pushing over 2000kg atm and the poor 330mm with the C5 caliper isnt coping and ive had em smoking a few times. Cant afford a 6k upgrade just yet though, ill leave that for the next car

No need to spend 6K will have the Front AP Racing caliper and bracket ready soon for the 330mm x 32mm disc and will put a picture with price when done.

[RBS MATT]

Got some pricing on the Brembo's for the front? Im pushing over 2000kg atm and the poor 330mm with the C5 caliper isnt coping and ive had em smoking a few times. Cant afford a 6k upgrade just yet though, ill leave that for the next car

No need to spend 6K i am putting the front AP Caliper and bracket together now to fit the 330mm x 32mm disc and will sell it as a minor kit eg: no rotors.Will post on the site with price when done

[35R]

Matt

Do you currently have availability of the AP Racing 4-pot 330mm fronts for commodore/monaro; your price before of $2500 is that still a goer? Also, do you think there is much benefit in going with say a DBA5000 rotor instead? I have lightweight circuit rims, anything to further capitalise on weight saving interests me... Plus replacement rotors might be a tad cheaper if the hats can be reused. (the 5000's are about 2Kg lighter each?)

Also, Erik mentioned you have some new molycarbide slotted OEM sized rears, are they expensive? and have you seen any guys use these with circuit yet? Would you use a special pad for these? thanks.

[RBS MATT]

Matt

Do you currently have availability of the AP Racing 4-pot 330mm fronts for commodore/monaro; your price before of $2500 is that still a goer? Also, do you think there is much benefit in going with say a DBA5000 rotor instead? I have lightweight circuit rims, anything to further capitalise on weight saving interests me... Plus replacement rotors might be a tad cheaper if the hats can be reused. (the 5000's are about 2Kg lighter each?)

Also, Erik mentioned you have some new molycarbide slotted OEM sized rears, are they expensive? and have you seen any guys use these with circuit yet? Would you use a special pad for these? thanks.

Yes i can do the front kits for $2500 but with dba5000 slotted rotors the kit is $3000.00 and it will be lighter but the replacement rotors are still a bit dearer than the DBA 4000 rotors.If your doing track days.The kit with DBA4000 slotted rotors and the ds2500 pad at $2750 is also a good option.

The rear rotors have a C slot and so far i haven't had someone use them on the track but my supplier has and has had no problems.I have a guy willing to put them on his vehicle and try them in a couple of weeks.If you or anyone wants to buy them and try them i will offer them for a good price.AT the moment i will offer them for $250 a pair which isn't to steep and a special pad is not needed.The rear rotor is also a vented rotor replacing the std solid disc on the VT-VZ range and can be also used on the street not just racing.

[35R]

Yes i can do the front kits for $2500 but with dba5000 slotted rotors the kit is $3000.00 and it will be lighter but the replacement rotors are still a bit dearer than the DBA 4000 rotors.If your doing track days.The kit with DBA4000 slotted rotors and the ds2500 pad at $2750 is also a good option.

The rear rotors have a C slot and so far i haven't had someone use them on the track but my supplier has and has had no problems.I have a guy willing to put them on his vehicle and try them in a couple of weeks.If you or anyone wants to buy them and try them i will offer them for a good price.AT the moment i will offer them for $250 a pair which isn't to steep and a special pad is not needed.The rear rotor is also a vented rotor replacing the std solid disc on the VT-VZ range and can be also used on the street not just racing.

Thanks Matt. Do you have availability of the AP Racing four-pot kit now? Also any pics or online info for these molycarbide OEM sized rears? (who makes them?) I will definitely try a pair, as I am thinking about leaving the rears OEM sized for a while now. So the $2750 kit you supply, is that with DBA 4000's?

[RBS MATT]

Thanks Matt. Do you have availability of the AP Racing four-pot kit now? Also any pics or online info for these molycarbide OEM sized rears? (who makes them?) I will definitely try a pair, as I am thinking about leaving the rears OEM sized for a while now. So the $2750 kit you supply, is that with DBA 4000's?
The ($2750) AP 330mm kit is with dba4000 and is not a problem just need 24hrs notice to put the kit together.I have just taken photo's of the disc and will email them to you as i think they are too big to upload.

[35R]

The ($2750) AP 330mm kit is with dba4000 and is not a problem just need 24hrs notice to put the kit together.I have just taken photo's of the disc and will email them to you as i think they are too big to upload.

thanks Matt; if you send them to admin_AT_trackchat.com.au i will upload them. Otherwise you could try to upload them here (http://www.trackchat.com.au/media/uploadphoto.php)

[35R]

I received the photos, thanks Matt

Links here for anyone interested:

http://www.trackchat.com.au/media/data/503/medium/Suc30067.jpg
http://www.trackchat.com.au/media/data/503/medium/SUC30065.jpg
http://www.trackchat.com.au/media/data/503/medium/vt_rear_moly.JPG

Matt, what is the advantage with this rotor material? Do yo uthink, given it is ventilated, could it be weaker given the side walls are much thinner? or would the ventilation more than offset the heatng/cracking issues anyway.

[lautray]

Are the Molycarbide ones stronger/more temperature resistant? If so, I will definitely be investing in a set of these too.

[Kyle]

Very nice looking rotors, do you make them to suit ba xr6'es? :)

[Scotty]

The kits are the STi Brembo kits and we do not have specs on wheels but the wheels need to have the same clearance as the STi wheels.
The AP Racing calipers on 330mm rotors should read $3150 and yes we can do 343mm 355mm 365mm or 381mm with 6 piston on front.
We can make anything and any size with 4 or 6 piston calipers but it boils down to three things. $$$$$$$$ , wheel size and availability of goods.
.

Thanks Matt.

What do you have to fit under the standard wheel on a MY99 WRX? This is a 16*7 wheel.

Failing that can you quote on supply of DBA5000 rotors to suit a MY99 WRX (front only)?

Thanks

PS I am trying to convince this person to go a slightly larger rim... but no joy so far.

[VooDoo]

No need to spend 6K i am putting the front AP Caliper and bracket together now to fit the 330mm x 32mm disc and will sell it as a minor kit eg: no rotors.Will post on the site with price when done

Great news. I already have pretty new DBA 330mm fronts and 315mm rears and just need the calipers and brackets (i also had the braided lines made up) so im definately on your list for a set of calipers.

Then again, im still tossing up going to the 2 peice DBA's and 343mm fronts for the GTO... oh well, its only money.

[dattoman]

Thats what I like to hear....... its only money

Once you've driven a car with good brakes you'll never go back to factory stuff

[RBS MATT]

I received the photos, thanks Matt

Links here for anyone interested:

http://www.trackchat.com.au/media/data/503/medium/Suc30067.jpg
http://www.trackchat.com.au/media/data/503/medium/SUC30065.jpg
http://www.trackchat.com.au/media/data/503/medium/vt_rear_moly.JPG

Matt, what is the advantage with this rotor material? Do yo uthink, given it is ventilated, could it be weaker given the side walls are much thinner? or would the ventilation more than offset the heatng/cracking issues anyway.
Thanks for putting this up for me .The rotors are made from a stronger material this is why they can be made vented.As listed on the information sheet for these rotors the closeness of the "metal matrix" allows the transfer of heat more readily and the dissipation of heat also occurs more freely resulting in a far more stable material.The rotors are very strong and extremely wear resistent .The disc thickness variation is less than 5 microns which is under car manufactures of 20 microns and are precision balanced for smooth and vibration free operation in all speed ranges.Also available in the front rotors these may be the answer for cars running std brakes and 15" wheels.
Did i lose anyone in this at all :stick:

[RBS MATT]

Very nice looking rotors, do you make them to suit ba xr6'es? :)
Sorry at the moment only VT front and rear are made.

[RBS MATT]

Thanks Matt.

What do you have to fit under the standard wheel on a MY99 WRX? This is a 16*7 wheel.

Failing that can you quote on supply of DBA5000 rotors to suit a MY99 WRX (front only)?

Thanks

PS I am trying to convince this person to go a slightly larger rim... but no joy so far.
I worked the multi quote thingy out :eyes:
I will pm price on rotors but no upgrades for 16" wheels sorry.Slotted rotors,performance pads will help though.

Great news. I already have pretty new DBA 330mm fronts and 315mm rears and just need the calipers and brackets (i also had the braided lines made up) so im definately on your list for a set of calipers.

Then again, im still tossing up going to the 2 peice DBA's and 343mm fronts for the GTO... oh well, its only money.
I hope to have a set of calipers and brackets made soon for the 330 front and the rears are no problems .
I may have a 343mm AP 4pot 2piece front kit today from a guy who has upgraded. PM me if interested

[chrishsv]

Hi matt just purchased a vl commodore and have a complete vy monaro brake setup waiting to be fitted, just wondering if you have the hub conversion kit, i have the calipers,rotors and brake lines so nothing else is needed, how much $ would i be looking at if available
Thanks in advance

[RBS MATT]

Hi matt just purchased a vl commodore and have a complete vy monaro brake setup waiting to be fitted, just wondering if you have the hub conversion kit, i have the calipers,rotors and brake lines so nothing else is needed, how much $ would i be looking at if available
Thanks in advance

On the front you will need hubs and hoses as the flare or seat in the VY is different to the early commodores.The rear kit won't bolt straight up as the handbrake and caliper mount is different from late to early.I have heard someone does modify it to work but you have to supply your rear setup as there are one or two types and it costs i think between $650 to $900 to do.Ring or email me for your prices if you want to go ahead.

[chrishsv]

$650 to $900 :shock: will be in touch shortly thanks for the reply