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I want your ideas for a mini-endurance race at Wakefield Park.
Probably not intended for first timers, or the very seldom circuit racer (using the family car) but moreso those wanting to push a little further or harder, or try something different.
I think we should be able to get 10 or 20 cars (across a few forums) to participate. The basic idea is to inject an "endurance" aspect to the day.
Say perhaps 100 laps..
It could involve teams OR single driver entries. You could enter a team of several mates. The thing is, i know for example that Commodore V8's (pushed hard) can't do 100 laps of wakefield park on a single tank of fuel - so the single entries would have to cruise around driving say 7/10ths to conserve fuel. Multiple driver/car entires might be a goer, but you would lose time switching cars/drivers.
Perhaps a smaller six or four-pot would kick the big v8's arses over the 100 laps? Maybe the multiple car teams (pushing hard) would win? Or the slow and steady v8's cruising around at 7/10ths
Which strategy would win the day?
lautray
27-04-2007, 04:30 AM
I like the idea. Would be in for that :).
NickS
27-04-2007, 04:37 AM
Why the hell not ... I like it !!!
Which would be faster ? Good question. Around Wakefield I suspect the smaller cars would have the measure of us V8s, we could flog them in a straight line but if we have to run at 70 - 80% to conserve fuel I don't think we would be able to match it with something small over 100 laps.
I am assuming something small but FAST here, not just any old small car. Hondas in general and MX5s would probably be perfect for this, I suspect EVOs & WRXs would struggle with fuel also.
:bravo: ... good idea Dunc.
Brockfan05
27-04-2007, 06:58 AM
I know for a fact Evo's will fare no better than a V8. From a 55L tank, my VIII had a range of about 340 km, and that was taking it easy. At Winton, a total of 1 hour 45 mins will empty a tank, and that's not going hard every lap either :D
MY Racing 221
27-04-2007, 07:08 AM
Great idea, would love to be a part of it!
Have you thought about logistics, organising permits and so on? Could be a few hurdles there to overcome.
I estimate that it would run for just under 2 hours. Lots of fun!
Sounds like a great idea Dunc! :)
seldo
27-04-2007, 07:59 AM
Depending on whether you see the distance as a problem or not, it would be easy to incorporate a compulsory/optional pit-stop which gives a second driver a chance to have a go, and remove some of the panic usually associated with this by having a minimum time allowed for the stop of say 3 or 4 minutes. This overcomes the problem of having to rush things and make mistakes with spillage etc. It also removes a safety problem where the car can come in for a tyre/brake/fuel check and you don't end up with safety car periods as they remove cars stopped on the track out of gas as some struggle trying to finish with the car running on just fresh-air and excitement....
I'll see if I can get my young bloke to post some thoughts/ideas on this as he came 2nd in the Lotus 500 there last year
awesome, keep it ideas coming guys
Well folks I have booked September 24th for the inaugural Wakefield 100!
It's on a Monday, so we have the weekend to prepare our cars.
It's a couple of weeks before the Bathurst enduro, so perhaps good for getting the juices flowing!
Details yet to be decided, but I am thinking the format of the day should be relatively simple:
* 9am ~ 12:30pm - Open track / free practice / lunch
* 12:30pm ~ 3pm - 100 Lap Enduro
* 3pm ~ 4pm - Open track (time permitting)
With around four hours devoted to open track / free practice - even those not keen on the 100 lapper have a chance to participate.
We'll hire lap timers for the day; each team is simply responsible for getting their lap timer around the track 100 times, starting 12:30pm.
You can drive solo or in teams - as many cars and/or drivers as you like.
Switching drivers and/or cars takes time, you're going to drop a few laps when you do...
I am still trying to figure out the best strategy - slow and steady? or a team of say four cars and go out hard?
There is no way we could drive around at 10/10th's (for 100 laps solo) you would simply run out of fuel, tyres, brakes and weetbix
Normal open track day rules would apply.
I will post up a separate thread to gather interest in the near future.
Giddyup!
PSI38L
30-04-2007, 05:37 PM
that sounds great duncan. I will have to mark this one down in the calander!
Damn, day before my birthday!
I'll be there!
MY Racing 221
30-04-2007, 06:48 PM
I'm really keen to run at this - I wonder if I can have a full week of motorsport and still live in the same house!
Weekend of 22nd-23rd is the Final round of the NSW IPRA championship
Following weekend (28-30th) is the IPRA nationals in QLD which I'm keen to do.
Can I squeeze in another day? Will the car live through that?
Hmm... going to do my best!
I hope you guys can make it.
How do we start the 100 lapper event? Grid?
I hope you guys can make it.
How do we start the 100 lapper event? Grid?
What about like this? :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0p3CkK9QDU
What about like this? :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0p3CkK9QDU
Ha thats a classic Kyle. I think we might want to avoid any potential paint swapping though, that looked a bit frantic!
MY Racing 221
30-04-2007, 07:11 PM
If you're running it in a race format, you would have to start as a grid, with qualifying etc.
What sort of times to people reckon they can do consistently for 2 hours?
MY Racing 221
30-04-2007, 07:13 PM
Ahh yes! A LeMans start!
Can't see the harness getting done up that quickly!:whip:
Ahh yes! A LeMans start!
Can't see the harness getting done up that quickly!:whip:
They cheated in that youtube vid, the pit member runs and jumps the wall, the driver is already strapped in :D
If you're running it in a race format, you would have to start as a grid, with qualifying etc.
What sort of times to people reckon they can do consistently for 2 hours?
I think lap times are going to depend a lot; people will need to develop a strategy. Some people might want to run four cars/drivers for example, and some could go solo. But if you are going to drive solo, you have the advantage of not having to pit four times (as in this example).. so that's say 10 laps advantage? But obviously that four car team is going to have a fresh car and/or driver every 25 laps! they are going to go hard vs the solo driver.
Obviously there could be many different strategies so i have NFI how it would pan out! People might want to keep their straegy secret.
Where can I hire a car for this event? :D
MY Racing 221
30-04-2007, 07:58 PM
Avis, Thrifty, Budget...:bravo: :beer: :up2sum:
seldo
01-05-2007, 04:29 PM
Avis, Thrifty, Budget...:bravo: :beer: :up2sum:
...What a disgraceful unethical suggestion! You should be ashamed of yourself.....! :shock:
....But now I think about it, it has some merit....
MY Racing 221
01-05-2007, 04:35 PM
Hehe, wouldn't be the first time its been done!
First time i was at Wakefield there were a bunch of blokes in hired MX5's; rolling the dice i guess but when you think about it, stack your own car and you arent covered anyway..
seldo
01-05-2007, 10:36 PM
Hehe, wouldn't be the first time its been done!
Ermmm....I know a bloke very well who hired a Honda S2000 and took it down there.....:yep:
I just booked the lap timers for Sept 24.
Slight change however - they want to put a lap timer in every car (all cars in each team).
Previously i thought we could have one lap timer per team; and the time required to swap over (lap timers) would be a good penalty for those switching to a fresh car/driver.
What do you think an acceptable penalty should be for changing over?
Maybe if the lap timing gear is on the pit wall, you drop a lap anyway, so a drive in, drive out is enough.
Therefore i guess you would drop about two laps for each change-over?
Btw do you think we'll need radios?
How will people know they are on lap 99 for example, perhaps the lap timer has a display.
We should be able to get an electronic version of the results too.
MY Racing 221
03-05-2007, 04:01 PM
Perhaps have a chat to some people from the Alfa Romeo Owners Club. They run a 6 hour relay race each year so will have encountered all of these problems before and have the answers. Also, I'm sure the timing people will know as well and have some ideas about how to get around that problem.
The timing gear itself will probably pick up on a strip embedded in the track, which I think carries through to the pits as well.
Radios are probably not necessary, just a pit crew. And last lap board for lap 99.
NickS
03-05-2007, 06:40 PM
How are we doing teams ... this might need some thought, if I'm up against Dunc & Erik in Duncs car there probably isn't any point even starting !!!
:lol:
I need to sign Paul up as a co-driver I think ... you interested Paul ???
Seriously though, I think this will mainly be a bit of fun, I can't really see it being an even race in any way as the power of the cars and the experience of the drivers is just too different. In any case, it will be interesting.
DaveHAT
03-05-2007, 06:59 PM
Even though I wouldn't be driving ... (TOO MUCH WEIGHT PENALTY :lol:) ... I'd be Uber keen to offer my backyard technical support and advice to anyone entering and serve as a roadie for any entrants.
Happy to pull a lead or 2 off the Monaro during a "routine stop" to even the playing field ... :lol:
PSI38L
03-05-2007, 07:20 PM
Well I'm keen to be part of a 3 or 4 car team. will anyone pick me for their team?
is there going to be a restriction on tyre type? also do you have an idea of cost yet Dunc?
How are we doing teams ... this might need some thought, if I'm up against Dunc & Erik in Duncs car there probably isn't any point even starting !!!
:lol:
I need to sign Paul up as a co-driver I think ... you interested Paul ???
Seriously though, I think this will mainly be a bit of fun, I can't really see it being an even race in any way as the power of the cars and the experience of the drivers is just too different. In any case, it will be interesting.
I think the 100 lap aspect, and the team options/strategy should level out the playing field Nick. Remember we just can't go hard for 100 laps, we would run out of fuel, tyres, brakes etc. If you want to be kind to your car (and last 100 laps) you need to either circulate relatively slowly or have a team. What sort of team would fare better? A team of 4 drivers going out hard? A team of two driving 7/10ths? I am still trying to work out what will work!
MY Racing 221
03-05-2007, 07:59 PM
I'm thinking of entering a 2 car team, with a mate who has run supersprints. His car is probably a couple of seconds slower than mine, so we will have to take that into consideration when we devise our strategy.
I'll probably start and finish, and he will have a pretty lengthy stint in the middle. Consistency is (I think) going to be the name of the game. If he can do consistent 15s, that will allow me to do consistent easy 13s, and perhaps 12s and 11s if really pushing towards the end. My car's pretty light, and economical, so figure we should be able to keep some faster cars pretty honest towards the end.
What about qualifying for teams? Could perhaps make starting position the fastest average laptime of your whole team. eg. 1 person does a 1:12, another 1:10, another 1:08, then you have yourself a 1:10 qualifying time. Each car must do a minumum of 5 laps in qualifying?
Just some ideas...
MY Racing 221
03-05-2007, 08:01 PM
Even though I wouldn't be driving ... (TOO MUCH WEIGHT PENALTY :lol:) ... I'd be Uber keen to offer my backyard technical support and advice to anyone entering and serve as a roadie for any entrants.
Happy to pull a lead or 2 off the Monaro during a "routine stop" to even the playing field ... :lol:
Dave, you can be the MY Racing roadie anytime you like!
Will need someone on the pit wall telling us to go faster! :whip:
Well I'm keen to be part of a 3 or 4 car team. will anyone pick me for their team?
is there going to be a restriction on tyre type? also do you have an idea of cost yet Dunc?
Hopefully cost shouldnt be much more than a regular private day + permit + ambos + lap timers + a couple of cheesy trophies, say $150~$200 per driver
MY Racing 221
03-05-2007, 09:07 PM
Have WP put in place any requirements for licencing of the drivers?
FatBoy
03-05-2007, 10:26 PM
I need to sign Paul up as a co-driver I think ... you interested Paul ???
LOL, count me in Nick... How about we hire an MX-5 between us, and during the morning session we'll do a few laps and get you used to the concept of no mechanical sympathy mate ?? :yep:
In all seriousness this is a great idea but probably needs a little more thought as far as time periods goes. 100 laps is a huge ask on a car, particularly one that normally does daily duty. Engines, boxes and diffs would be subjected to temperatures they would never see on the street or even at a track day.
Perhaps a 30 minute stint, then 30 minute break with driver change (15 minute intervals would be even better - 15 ten tenths laps will kill most set ups and high temps will be the order of the day) could ease the stress on drivers and cars. I'd hate to see a bunch of guys go home with busted / damaged equipment...
One other thing i'd suggest that some people may enjoy - a "regularity" style event. Everyone goes all out trying to set a low lap time. Dial in your lap time and then go 5 laps flat out trying to match your "dial in". Closest to dial in over 5 laps wins.
Then in the afternoon have a balls out 10 or 12 lap sprint race for those who are confident in their ability...
I don't want to rain on Duncan's parade and am just throwing out some ideas...
Cheers,
Paul...
Hi Paul
I think the idea (for regular cars) is to have teams of several drivers, each with their own car. Do say 15~25 laps each.
But if you want to drive 100 laps yourself... better think of a strategy to pace yourself! (as mentioned i dont think the average highpo street car could even do it on a single tank of fuel, if driven hard)
FatBoy
03-05-2007, 10:56 PM
Sounds like a logistical nightmare but good luck with it - with the right planning i'm sure it would be a great event !! :yep:
I don't even know what car to run (mine is an auto so it's out) but i'll put in an expression of interest at this stage. I really miss my RX-7 right now... :(
Sounds like a logistical nightmare but good luck with it - with the right planning i'm sure it would be a great event !! :yep:
I don't even know what car to run (mine is an auto so it's out) but i'll put in an expression of interest at this stage. I really miss my RX-7 right now... :(
I was chatting with the Lap timing people yesterday. Apparently the software they use can deal with teams, so at least from that aspect the lap timing is easy, it automatically calculates where everyone is at.
I dont think it will be a nightmare, bound to be a couple of us running around like headless chooks but i am sure it will be ok.
NickS
04-05-2007, 06:21 AM
LOL, count me in Nick... How about we hire an MX-5 between us, and during the morning session we'll do a few laps and get you used to the concept of no mechanical sympathy mate ?? :yep:
Now THAT could be interesting.
BTW ... I reckon with a transmission cooler your car would be fine, not as much fun as a M6 but it could still work.
Dunc, I'm sure we will work it all out ... :up2sum:
If it all becomes too hard to organise, we'll just a a regular private day. I'll try and sort out te details and get back to you guys. Hopefully it isnt hugely difficult, i think it should be an interesting day.
DaveHAT
04-05-2007, 07:39 AM
Dave, you can be the MY Racing roadie anytime you like!
Will need someone on the pit wall telling us to go faster! :whip:
:stick: :driving: :burnout: ---------> :beer:
Would these signals be sufficient Dave? :lol:
You'll have to point out to me where the coil packs and throttle body are on the Corona before we start ... I'm a bit more familiar with the LS1 engine :lol:
Could we slot an LS1 into the Corona for the event? :thumbs:
MY Racing 221
04-05-2007, 07:58 AM
Haha... sensational!
Coil packs are real easy to find... they are sitting on the dash! How are you with carbies?! :shock:
LS1 in a Corona huh? I reckon the idea has some merit!
Those signals are fine... just as long as you don't start with this one :flip1:
seldo
04-05-2007, 08:16 AM
I just booked the lap timers for Sept 24.
Slight change however - they want to put a lap timer in every car (all cars in each team).
Previously i thought we could have one lap timer per team; and the time required to swap over (lap timers) would be a good penalty for those switching to a fresh car/driver.
What do you think an acceptable penalty should be for changing over?
Maybe if the lap timing gear is on the pit wall, you drop a lap anyway, so a drive in, drive out is enough.
Therefore i guess you would drop about two laps for each change-over?
Btw do you think we'll need radios?
How will people know they are on lap 99 for example, perhaps the lap timer has a display.
We should be able to get an electronic version of the results too.
The timing system uses a strip embedded in the track just before the Admin tower and each car has a trigger device attached to the exterior which sends the signal as it crosses the line. The time is registered on a PC/lap-top in the tower and the times are only available at the pleasure of the timing operator by way of print-out, but are not available in the pits, so if you want to give your driver a lap-time you'll need to use your own hand-held stop-watches. You may be able to get an undertaking from the timing operator to provide official times every say 10 laps or so, but it's an arrangement that will need to be agreed upon before the event starts.
This is the way it all appears:
http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?30/04/2007.WAKE.S4.I
The timing system uses a strip embedded in the track just before the Admin tower and each car has a trigger device attached to the exterior which sends the signal as it crosses the line. The time is registered on a PC/lap-top in the tower and the times are only available at the pleasure of the timing operator by way of print-out, but are not available in the pits, so if you want to give your driver a lap-time you'll need to use your own hand-held stop-watches. You may be able to get an undertaking from the timing operator to provide official times every say 10 laps or so, but it's an arrangement that will need to be agreed upon before the event starts.
This is the way it all appears:
http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?30/04/2007.WAKE.S4.I
we'll need updates on where each team is up to (lap count) but apparently that should be no great issue.
A few of us have IR laptimers, pehaps we'll use them if we need to calculate pace?
quite a few of us have those UHF radios; but i dont think it's really necessary.
apparently we can get a download at the end of the day (from the natsoft system) so we we can analyse it to death later!
Justice
04-05-2007, 11:16 AM
The timing system uses a strip embedded in the track just before the Admin tower and each car has a trigger device attached to the exterior which sends the signal as it crosses the line. The time is registered on a PC/lap-top in the tower and the times are only available at the pleasure of the timing operator by way of print-out, but are not available in the pits, so if you want to give your driver a lap-time you'll need to use your own hand-held stop-watches. You may be able to get an undertaking from the timing operator to provide official times every say 10 laps or so, but it's an arrangement that will need to be agreed upon before the event starts.
This is the way it all appears:
http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?30/04/2007.WAKE.S4.I
All sounds good guys but most cars are going to struggle to keep a good hard or even reasonble pace for 20 laps without things like diff coolers, trans coolers etc. Maybe break it down to 5 races over the day which will cut out pit stops for fuel etc. Definately interested either way
All sounds good guys but most cars are going to struggle to keep a good hard or even reasonble pace for 20 laps without things like diff coolers, trans coolers etc. Maybe break it down to 5 races over the day which will cut out pit stops for fuel etc. Definately interested either way
Maybe i am nuts.
100 laps!!
You can use 1 driver, 2 drivers or 10 drivers.
teams need to formulate a strategy
I know of a lot of ls1's that can easily do 1:15's for (say) 15~20 laps
but, frankly, there is going to be traffic
nobody is going to have a clear track
you have to plan for people spinning off the track too.. safety periods
this happens even on regular open days often
thinking thinking...
seriously, i dont see this as much more taxing then an open day
NickS
04-05-2007, 04:17 PM
Maybe i am nuts.
100 laps!!
You can use 1 driver, 2 drivers or 10 drivers.
teams need to formulate a strategy
I know of a lot of ls1's that can easily do 1:15's for (say) 15~20 laps
but, frankly, there is going to be traffic
nobody is going to have a clear track
you have to plan for people spinning off the track too.. safety periods
this happens even on regular open days often
thinking thinking...
seriously, i dont see this as much more taxing then an open day
That makes sense Dunc, the reason I see it as being taxing than a private day is that I doubt we will have enough entrants to have teams of 3 or 4 ... let alone 10 !!!
If we had a track chat team and a bunch of teams from other forums it would probably work, but as I see it so far we will possibly have 8 or so in total from TC. I have personally never done anywhere near 100 laps in one day ... probably more like 30 or 40, and that's with plenty of breaks to cool down.
If we run 100 laps straight I can see my car needing to do at least half of those, simply because I have no idea who else I would run with ???
Not ruling this out by any means ... I just think this may take more of a toll than you think.
:confused:
If we can't get 20~25 people along to the day (like the other wakefield day coming up) i would be surprised. i think all we really need is that, don't you think?
How about 52 laps, thats 100 kms give or take a few hundred meters.
I think a lot of people will be put off by 100 LAPS.
MTC.
Troy :)
NickS
04-05-2007, 06:10 PM
If we can't get 20~25 people along to the day (like the other wakefield day coming up) i would be surprised. i think all we really need is that, don't you think?
Agreed ... my point is that out of 20 - 25 people that we can sign up I think I might know 3 or 4 of them. I can't see myself getting together a team of 3 or 4 cars (unless we have a TC team) and I can't see my car lasting 50 laps ???
Maybe I'm wrong ... I don't know. I'm happy to give it a go, I'll just cruise around at a steady / brisk pace, if something breaks it breaks, I can live with that.
Perhaps people are thinking they need to thrash there car for 50 or 100 laps flat out?
You dont need to.
Example:
Say you only have two cars/drivers
Options:
a) 1x 50 laps each
b) 2x 25 lap sessions each
c) 3x 15 lap sessions each
I dont see option c as much more taxing vs a regular private day. Of course, there are lots of potential combinations (team members and pit options). You need to calculate and adjust your driving to account for what you think others will do... If you pit 3 times, that is going to yield a 6 lap advantage vs other teams that pits 6 times (working on the assumption you will lose about 2 laps per changeover). Thus you should benchmark your target lap time accordingly.
I will have a go at knocking up a spreadsheet to demonstrate what i am talking about
Justice
04-05-2007, 09:07 PM
Perhaps people are thinking they need to thrash there car for 50 or 100 laps flat out?
You dont need to.
Example:
Say you only have two cars/drivers
Options:
a) 1x 50 laps each
b) 2x 25 lap sessions each
c) 3x 15 lap sessions each
I dont see option c as much more taxing vs a regular private day. Of course, there are lots of potential combinations (team members and pit options). You need to calculate and adjust your driving to account for what you think others will do... If you pit 3 times, that is going to yield a 6 lap advantage vs other teams that pits 6 times (working on the assumption you will lose about 2 laps per changeover). Thus you should benchmark your target lap time accordingly.
I will have a go at knocking up a spreadsheet to demonstrate what i am talking about
I am happy either way Dunc. I'll be in it with a couple of my cars. I am confident I can do the stints but I would say my cars are prepped a bit better than an average Joe off the street and could still have probs over the distance. Even things like rotors will struggle with 20 hard laps.
We are talking 1 hr 56 at best averaging 1.10 per lap. I know everyone doesnt have to go hard but when the red mist kicks in and someone goes past someone else they will always push their car a lot harder. If it is 2 races at half the distance I agree with Nick that you will get more takers which will mean a fuller grid at the start. Imagine a 32 car grid for the start.
PS. Traffic will only slow down the people that dont own a second car.J/k. Rubbins racin:beer:
lautray
04-05-2007, 09:56 PM
Don't rain on the parade just yet... early days. Still 4 months to go & nothing really set in stone.
We do ~100 laps on an open day, ie 20 min sessions; 7+ sessions throughout the day. Admittedly it is not done in a single stint. But, with multiple cars per team, I don't think it will be an issue (touch wood). I have had my fair share of brake issues at Wakefield :headbang: , but with an idea like this, conservation will be key in all areas, whilst maintaining some sort of "pace".
lautray
04-05-2007, 09:58 PM
How about 52 laps, thats 100 kms give or take a few hundred meters.
I think Wakefield is 2.2km, so ~45 laps ;).
I am happy either way Dunc. I'll be in it with a couple of my cars. I am confident I can do the stints but I would say my cars are prepped a bit better than an average Joe off the street and could still have probs over the distance. Even things like rotors will struggle with 20 hard laps.
We are talking 1 hr 56 at best averaging 1.10 per lap. I know everyone doesnt have to go hard but when the red mist kicks in and someone goes past someone else they will always push their car a lot harder. If it is 2 races at half the distance I agree with Nick that you will get more takers which will mean a fuller grid at the start. Imagine a 32 car grid for the start.
PS. Traffic will only slow down the people that dont own a second car.J/k. Rubbins racin:beer:
I see what your saying Darren, we all turn up the wick on the track when the competitiveness kicks in, that's true. I'm just trying to inject a bit of "enduro" to the day - with the option of as many cars and drivers as you like (for a team) to make it less taxing for car and driver. This isnt necessarily about going out and driving as hard as you can (like most open days). You can make it as easy or hard as you like. Yes there will be traffic and there will be the odd person spinning off the track (just like at every open day i have been too) those things can change the outcome.
At the next Wakefield day (May 31) i'll pay close attention to how soft/hard people drive and experiement with some "slow" laps too see what sort of pace can be maintained without chewing up the car.
Hi Dunc,
Will I be able to bring down the Escort or is it street cars only? Also, I like the idea suggested earlier of having minimum timed pit stops.... 1 it would be good for the cars... 2 it will be good for the drivers and minimise the risk of fatigue related accidents.
Remembering that we want a safe event, I'd suggest something like a compulsory 5 minutes stop every 20 or 25 laps.... That also takes out the rush in the pits which might be an issue.
Either way, let me know. I'd like to come down for this one depending on the format.
-- Stav.
cosmo vyss
29-05-2007, 09:43 AM
After watching some of the footage at the Dutton. Would it be possible to hold a mokahama type event at the Wakefield 100? It looks a heap of fun and doesn't look that hard to set up, just a few witches hats and voila sideways runabout fun.
JB
waylow
10-06-2007, 08:31 PM
Just joined up. Would love to enter this, though there is no way my car would make 100 laps, seeing as its only got a 15l tank. I have a swift GTi build for 3j. Would refueling be an option? What is needed in terms of licence/car requirements ect?
Just joined up. Would love to enter this, though there is no way my car would make 100 laps, seeing as its only got a 15l tank. I have a swift GTi build for 3j. Would refueling be an option? What is needed in terms of licence/car requirements ect?
Hi mate, welcome, post up a hello in the new members section.
Troy :cheers:
MY Racing 221
10-06-2007, 08:43 PM
Just joined up. Would love to enter this, though there is no way my car would make 100 laps, seeing as its only got a 15l tank. I have a swift GTi build for 3j. Would refueling be an option? What is needed in terms of licence/car requirements ect?
Good to see another IPRA regular here... could be an option to have an IPRA team!
waylow
10-06-2007, 08:51 PM
I would be up for that!!
No way I'll make it on one tank....tires and brakes will be fine though. I hope to have the car done by August early September.
MY Racing 221
10-06-2007, 09:00 PM
Cool, we will have to keep it in mind. Race season is very busy at that time of year, and I'm considering doing the IPRA nationals this year too in QLD, so will have to see how the car (and budget) are going!
waylow
10-06-2007, 09:03 PM
Well keep me up to date, very interested! If I forget about this place you can always PM me over on ipra.
The idea for such an event is to encourage teams of multiple cars/drivers; do say 10~20 laps each or thereabouts. Does not need to be more taxing vs an open day really. However, you could do it alone by circulating rather sedately (say 1:30~1:35's) and still win, because you dont waste a couple of laps for every car/driver change.
The idea is to inject a bit of variable strategy.
I am determined to organise this event, but i think i have more work to frame it right and organise.
Maybe early next year.
Meanwhile TrackChat have booked Wakefield Park for Monday September 24, Ian Luff and his team will be along to offer on-track driver training. More details in another thread, hopefully tonight.
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